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Re: VAX BSD final answer...

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From: Thor Lancelot Simon
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 04:26
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In article <BzAEsz.Ipy@dscomsa.desy.de> Hallam@zeus02.desy.de writes:
>In article <1992Dec14.041235.4661@panix.com>, tls@panix.com (Thor Lancelot
>Simon) writes:
>
>|>In article <Byx3D5.326@dscomsa.desy.de> Hallam@zeus02.desy.de writes:
>|>>In article <DGRAY.92Dec2000244@menudo.uh.edu>, dgray@menudo.uh.edu (Dennis
>|>Gray
>|>>Jr.) writes:
>|>>
>|>>|>It doesn't look like there is a free unix for the vax.  That's too
>|>>|>bad, since there really isn't a really good OS for the vax anywhere.
>|>>
>|>>Except of course for VMS which did a decade ago all the things that UNIX has
>|>>only just started to.
>|>
>|>Except of course for VMS, which was as slow and ungainly a decade ago as UNIX
>|>has only just started to become.
>|>
>|>(Now if there were only a TOPS-20 or ITS port for the vax...)
>
>Problem with O/Ss is that in order to solve everyone's needs they need a lot of
>functionality. UNIX got by by offering a very limited amount of functionality
>which was exactly what a hacker running simple single user tasks with a minimnum

So.  UNIX is designed primarily for single-user use?  If that's not what you're 
saying, it sure sounds like it.  Mr. Hallam-Baker, you know better.


>of complex file handling requirements.
>
>In the 70's everyone realized that to make databases run fast you had to put
>sophisticated data structures onto the disk and handle them in the I/O subsystem
>rather than the processor. Nowadays suggesting such systems receives hosts of
>flames from the people who have accepted the sequential file structures only
>line.

Please provide some evidence that your way is better.

>
>Yep by all means lets replace VMS with something better. But for heavens sake
>lets not let UNIX win. If UNIX became the only O/S standard we would never get
>anything better.

It sounds to me like you can buy what you want from IBM....
>
>
>
>--
>
>Phill Hallam-Baker


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