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Article #3889Re: DEC workstation user feedback
From: Don Stokes
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 04:45
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 04:45
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przemek@rrdstrad.nist.gov (Przemek Klosowski) writes: > Well, I am not sure if you are serious or joking. If you are serious, > I would just say that I want my work done; my understanding of ANSI > escape sequences is that it is a standard for commands sent TO THE > CHARACTER-BASED TERMINALS. The usurpation of ESC for keystrokes send > _from_ my Xterm is just unreasonable. What would be a reason for it, > besides an overwhelming desire to literally obey? > > A standard is just that: a standard way of doing things. As far as I > know, only DEC insists on interpreting the ANSI standard for display > commands as prohibiting the existence of an ESC keyboard key. The VT100 keycodes are something of a de facto standard. These (usually) start with an ESC and follow the ANSI sequences. Treating ESC as a keystroke is asking for trouble. If an application receives an ESC, it can either treat it as one character or as a lead in to a multiple character sequence. IT CANNOT DO BOTH. Instead, we have disgusting kludges like waiting a period of time for a following character and calling it a sequence if we get it or a bare ESC if we don't. Every time vi gets this wrong I want to go and KILL the STUPID BLOODY FOOL who did this, and get the bad genes off the planet. Death to the bare ESC, once and for all! -- Don Stokes, ZL2TNM (DS555) don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (home) Network Manager, Computing Services Centre don@vuw.ac.nz (work) Victoria University of Wellington, New Zealand +64-4-495-5052
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!ferkel.ucsb.edu!taco!gatech!europa.asd.contel.com!howland.reston.ans.net!wupost!waikato.ac.nz!comp.vuw.ac.nz!zl2tnm!toyunix!don Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec Subject: Re: DEC workstation user feedback Message-ID: <11173347@zl2tnm.gen.nz> From: don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (Don Stokes) Date: 13 Dec 92 04:45:39 GMT Sender: news@zl2tnm.gen.nz (GNEWS Version 2.0 news poster.) References: <PRZEMEK.92Dec12154829@rrdstrad.nist.gov> Distribution: world Organization: The Wolery Lines: 29