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Article #437Re: dec3100 tape drive
From: Mike Neff
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 1989 21:35
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 1989 21:35
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In article <2836@helios.ee.lbl.gov> envbvs@epb2.lbl.gov (Brian V. Smith) writes:
>In article <1934@jhunix.HCF.JHU.EDU>, msc_wdqn@jhunix.HCF.JHU.EDU (Daniel Q. Naiman) writes:
>>
>> I am considering purchasing a dec3100 and the TK50 that dec sells, even with
>> the academic discount at $2658 seems a bit steep. Sun's tape drive is
>> only around $1168 for me. This state of affairs seems a bit odd.
>>
>> Does anyone know what less expensive options I have?
>> I am somewhat new at this sort of thing. Are there inexpensive and
>> reliable tape drives that I can use to load the same distribution tapes?
>> What is really going on here?
>>
>> Please post message, call or send mail.
>>
>
>In the first place, the Sun tape drive (if you are talking about the
>1/4 inch cartridge system) only holds about 60 megabytes and, the biggest
>pain: YOU CANNOT >>>ADD<<< TO A 'TAR' FILE. You have to create a whole new
>tar file from scratch ('tar c') because it can't extend a file.
>
>It is true that the DEC TK50 drive is overpriced (everything sold on the
>component level by DEC is overpriced), but you do get
>95 megabytes on a cartridge and it is faster (true, not much) than
>the Sun drive.
>
What Brian said was true a few months ago, but not any more.
The newer Sun tape drives that go with the SPARCstation 1 and the other
new Sun products are not Qic24 60MB tape drives but Qic150 150MB tape drives
( However you can still use the old shoeboxes with the newer machines if
so desired ). The list price for the Qic150 drive is $1,600. I suspect
that with his discount, Dan was being offered one of the new drives.
The speed is roughly the same as the older drive ( 90 ips ) and the newer
drive offers higher density ( 10,000 bpi as opposed to 8,000 bpi ).
Rewind time is also roughly the same ( 1.5 min. ).
Not being able to add to a tar file can be overcome to some degree by
winding past the end-of-tape mark of the existing image and creating a
new tar image.
Mike Neff
mneff@sun.com
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>Brian V. Smith (bvsmith@lbl.gov)
>Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
>We don't need no signatures!
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!ames!purdue!decwrl!sun-barr!texsun!newstop!pitstop!neff From: neff@pitstop.West.Sun.COM (Mike Neff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec Subject: Re: dec3100 tape drive Keywords: dec3100 system , compatible tape drive Message-ID: <718@pitstop.West.Sun.COM> Date: 18 Jun 89 21:35:53 GMT References: <1934@jhunix.HCF.JHU.EDU> <2836@helios.ee.lbl.gov> Reply-To: neff@pitstop.UUCP (Mike Neff) Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc., Mountain View, CA. Lines: 58