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Article #4404Re: VS3100-76 SCSI question
From: Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1993 10:41
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1993 10:41
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In article <17869@umd5.umd.edu>, bleau@umdsp.umd.edu writes: > 1) I just found out that the 1st SCSI bus on teh VS3100-76 is internal only > and can't be extended beyond the system box. That limits me in that all my > additional scsi devices have to go on the 2nd bus. Can anyone confirm or deny > this statement? I got it from DEC, btw, but you never know. Also, is there a > non-DEC way of feeding it to the outside world? I believe the M76 uses the same SCSI/SCSI adapter as the M38/48. If so, the following may be useful: The baseplate has 3 mounting positions. The rear right contains the SCSI adapter. The front right handles a 1/2 height 5.25" device, either a TZ30 or an RX2xS, which is run off the B SCSI bus (the "external" one). The 2 left positions can each handle 3.5" full-height drives, and are run off the A bus (internal). However, there are 3 connectors crimped on the A cable, so you can use the 3rd one to run the front right device, giving you 7 free ID's on the external bus. As far as getting the A bus out of the box, I wouldn't do it. The cable is somewhat unusual in that it loops back into the connector (which has 100 pins) and the terminators are on the SCSI adapter itself. > 2) I was warned by a 3rd party disk vendor to stay away from SCSI id 7. He > said that DEC has their cpu at scsi id 6, and that some devices will work at > scsi id 7, but they get a little flakey, and he gave the impression that it'd > be a bad idea to depend on devices at that id. He also mentioned that this bug > was fixed in the VS4000-60. Can anyone confirm or deny this bug, and give more > specifics on it? Also, can you comment on if it has really been fixed, or is > it still lurking; ie, am I safe in putting scsi devices (or even the scsi > adapter) at scsi id 7? The SCSI adapter's ID's are individually settable to any number. Using a device with a higher ID than the adapter (and thus a higher priority) can indeed cause problems. You can reconfigure the adapter's ID using the built- in ROM code, so it's not a problem. > 3) I was told the the VS3100-76 only has scsi-1, not scsi-2. If I buy a > disk drive with a scsi-2 interface, what can go wrong if I attach it to the > scsi-1 adapter on my system? I haven't had any problems running Fujitsu M2624's which are SCSI-2 in a M38. Of course, the adapter doesn't do sync mode. However, it all works fine. 3 of the new(ish) Fuji 1Gb 3.5's can be put in the M38 box if you don't need a floppy or tape in the front right position, thus giving you 3Gb internally. > 4) I have an internal TZ30, but it's on the 2nd scsi bus. Is there a way I > can put this on the 1st scsi bus? Some special, but easy to get, cable maybe? > If you have a part number, that'd be great (are you listening, DEC field > service?). See my answer to #1, above. Terry Kennedy Operations Manager, Academic Computing terry@spcvxa.bitnet St. Peter's College, Jersey City, NJ USA terry@spcvxa.spc.edu +1 201 915 9381
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!wupost!micro-heart-of-gold.mit.edu!rutgers!spcvxb!terry From: terry@spcvxb.spc.edu (Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec Subject: Re: VS3100-76 SCSI question Message-ID: <1993Jan9.054113.4861@spcvxb.spc.edu> Date: 9 Jan 93 10:41:13 GMT References: <17869@umd5.umd.edu> Organization: St. Peter's College, US Lines: 55