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Article #4448Re: Patches online, was Re: Unix Review review of Alpha/OSF
From: Edward J. Groth 609-258-4361
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:11
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:11
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In article <1993Jan23.123005.337@rlgsc.com>, gezelter@rlgsc.com writes: >In article <1jnl76INN62n@slab.mtholyoke.edu>, mcrowley@MtHolyoke.edu (Michael A. Crowley) writes: >> Bill Rye (rye@scmbrd.dco.dec.com) wrote: >>> It all boils down to legalities. ... >> >> I want patches online. But I don't think they are as necessary >> online as the information *about* the patches. [stuff edited out] > >To a large extent, this entire discussion gives me a sense of >"Deja Vue". Back before the beginning of time (about 5 years ago) >Digital published the "Software Dispatch", a publication received >by supported customers which included warning notices concerning >the various software products. Several years ago, this >information was extremely useful, often as a warning of potential >problems. > >Beginning around that time, when machine readable update kits >started appearing, the content of the Dispatch started >dissipating. More and more articles took on the tone of "there is >a problem with XX, which is fixed at Autopatch D". Often no >diagnosis, no work around, no pathology, just a note that there >was a bug and that a purported fix was available. As you noted, >this level of information is, for many purposes, useless. > >I would like to see a return to the days of the useable Dispatch, >even in an electronic form, which would provide warning of >problem before hitting them. The obscuring of product status (by >all of the manufacturers) is tremendously wasteful in time and >resources to the customer base. [more stuff edited out] I would like to see the patches show up on the cd-roms. I just got the January CD's and I presume they were put together in December. Surely all known patches to the products shipped on the CD's could be put on as well. If there's something which requires a patch, and DEC knows about it, then they can't really claim that the software is accurately described by the SPD which IS shipped on the CD's. I don't expect that the patches would be already installed; instead, I think there could be another directory in addition to [product.KIT], [product.LINE_DOCS], and [product.POST_DOCS]: there could be [product.PATCHES]. - Ed /----------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Edward J. Groth | Phone: 609-258-4361 | | Physics Dept., Jadwin Hall | Fax: 609-258-1124 | | Princeton University | SPAN/HEPNET: PUPGG::GROTH=44117::GROTH | | Princeton, NJ 08544 | Internet: groth@pupgg.princeton.edu | \----------------------------------------------------------------------/
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.unix.ultrix,comp.os.vms Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!linac!att!princeton!pupgg.princeton.edu!GROTH From: GROTH@pupgg.princeton.edu (Edward J. Groth 609-258-4361) Subject: Re: Patches online, was Re: Unix Review review of Alpha/OSF Message-ID: <1993Jan26.011121.21455@Princeton.EDU> Originator: news@nimaster Sender: news@Princeton.EDU (USENET News System) Nntp-Posting-Host: pupgg.princeton.edu Reply-To: groth@pupgg.princeton.edu Organization: Physics Department, Princeton University References: <1993Jan20.194415.17508@decuac.dec.com> <1jnl76INN62n@slab.mtholyoke.edu>,<1993Jan23.123005.337@rlgsc.com> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:11:21 GMT Lines: 55