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Article #4886Re: pdp questions...
From: Bill Pechter
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1988 02:01
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1988 02:01
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In article <5168X@utah-cs.UUCP> cetron@cs.utah.edu.UUCP (Edward J Cetron) writes:
>In article <16886@gatech.edu> ken@gatech.edu (Ken Seefried iii) writes:
>>the 11/23, 11/23+ and 11/24...
> same chip set, (t-11 i seem to recall) but 23+ had some outboard
> slu's etc unlike the 23. the 23/23+ where q-bus, the 11/24 used
> a similar (but NOT identical) chip set and was unibus
>
I believe the F11 chips on the 11/23 11/23+ and 11/24 were identical.
>>the 11/44 and 11/45...
> the 11/45 was a cache-less 11/70, old chip set. 11/44 was much newer
> and used the same type of dual bus (processor-memory vs unibus) as the
> 11/70 but only had 1 set of registers unlike the 11/70...
> (it also took LOTS less power)
The KB11-A and KB11-B were the early 11/45 and 11/70 respectively. They
were very similar, having separate I and D space, but the 11/70 had
22 bit addressing and a unibus map. The floating point units were the same
as well. The 11/70 was later upgraded to the KB11-C and the 11/45 was the
KB11-D after equivalent ECO's were performed. I seem to remember that a major
reason for the ECO's was a floating point bug found under Unix systems.
The 11/70's main feature was the cache memory, integrated cache-memory to main
memory to RH70 massbuss which replaced the RH11 option by integrating the RH
into the CPU's backplane.
The 11/45 had dual registers (I think) as well as the 11/70. The 11/45,11/50
and 11/55 were the same machine with different memory configurations. The
11/55 was a screamer using bipolar memory and core giving very fast speed.
I think the 11/55 was the one with the later floating point option on it.
I won't go into the ones that never hit the street.
>>the 11/70, 11/73 and 11/84/83...
> and in most (but not all) circumstances are the fastest 11's around
>('cept those fascinating rumors of 40Mhz j-11's running in liquid nitrogen
>......)
How about the rumors of the parallel multi-processor j-11's in the labs at
DEC and in DECUS?
Bill Pechter
ex-DEC Field Service
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!mnetor!uunet!unisoft!hoptoad!dasys1!pechter From: pechter@dasys1.UUCP (Bill Pechter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec Subject: Re: pdp questions... Message-ID: <2713@dasys1.UUCP> Date: 25 Jan 88 02:01:46 GMT References: <16886@gatech.edu> <5168X@utah-cs.UUCP> Reply-To: pechter@dasys1.UUCP (Bill Pechter) Organization: Datamerica Systems, NYC Lines: 45