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Rodney Reid <rreid@earth.execpc.com> wrote:
}Impossible.  Since there are no 100mhz bus boards out yet, how could you
}get to 500mhz?

   You didn't read very carefully:

}mmkc@ace-net.com.au wrote:
}:   This is what my new system going to have:  [...list...]
}: This computer going to be a home use only. Since, I don't think I will
}: upgrade my comp in a number of years so I would to get a processor
}: with 500MHz or something like that e.g Alpha...
                                          ^^^^^
  You can indeed buy systems with a 500Mhz (or faster) Alpha processor.

John
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Impossible.  Since there are no 100mhz bus boards out yet, how could you
get to 500mhz?

If you want to spend a lot of money, get a slot 0 board that supports the
300mhz Pentium II:   Cyrix is currently battling for the ability to use
the slot 0 too for their next generation chip, so there may be an upgrade
path for awhile.   It's the fastest intel-compatible chip out currently.

For my money, my next board is going to be an up to 83mhz socket 7 board
with a AMD K6-233.   This way I can later on (say, 9 months to a year)
sell the board and the chip and only lose, maybe a hundred bucks.   


	Good luck,

	...Rodney



mmkc@ace-net.com.au wrote:
: hello,
:   This is what my new system going to have:
: #9 Revolution3D AGP video card
: AVerMedia TV-Phone
: Plextor 20x CD ROM
: USR Courier 56.6
: AWE64 Gold
: Quantun AtlasII SCSI 9.1GB
: 64MB SDRAM
: Adaptec 2940UW SCSI

: This computer going to be a home use only. Since, I don't think I will
: upgrade my comp in a number of years so I would to get a processor
: with
: 500MHz or something like that e.g Alpha... Any suggestions on which
: processor, motherboard etc. I should get?

: please reply via e-mail as well at...
: mmkc@ace-net.com.au

: thank you

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Rodney Reid wrote:
> 
> Impossible.  Since there are no 100mhz bus boards out yet, how could you
> get to 500mhz?
> 
> If you want to spend a lot of money, get a slot 0 board that supports the
> 300mhz Pentium II:   Cyrix is currently battling for the ability to use
> the slot 0 too for their next generation chip, so there may be an upgrade
> path for awhile.   It's the fastest intel-compatible chip out currently.
> 
> For my money, my next board is going to be an up to 83mhz socket 7 board
> with a AMD K6-233.   This way I can later on (say, 9 months to a year)
> sell the board and the chip and only lose, maybe a hundred bucks.


> : 500MHz or something like that e.g Alpha... Any suggestions on which
> : processor, motherboard etc. I should get?
> 

But he said an Alpha Chip, not an Intel chip (Well, Alpha isn't owned by
Intel.. Yet).
There are 533mhz Alpha's readily availible as we speak that run Windows
NT.. Though
I dunno if it would be great to buy (unless you have a specific
purpose).. i.e.
it's not going to be great for games or anything..

Somebody get me a Alpha that will work with all the hard ware he has
outlined. ;-)

For my money it would be P2 but with Intel on the horison of new slot
designes, I can see the first generation P2's becoming like the 60/66 P5's.
You can go so far but its never enough. (233 - 300 Is'nt allot of upgrade
potential.)
What I here of the specks for Slot 2 it will go well beyond 500Mhz (300 -
500Mhz, Now thats starting to sound like upgrade potentil).
Just to contredict all I have just said the Alpha I routinly use eats NT for
breakfast and UNIX for lunch, It's DAMM FAST by x86 standards.

Regards
    John

>But he said an Alpha Chip, not an Intel chip (Well, Alpha isn't owned by
>Intel.. Yet).
>There are 533mhz Alpha's readily availible as we speak that run Windows
>NT.. Though
>I dunno if it would be great to buy (unless you have a specific
>purpose).. I.e.
>it's not going to be great for games or anything..

	I did read it carefully.   He had a large listing of PC based PCI
boards, and I don't know anyone who has an Alpha running with that
hardware (much less finding drivers) - so I discounted the alpha comment.


	...Rodney

John Hascall (john@iastate.edu) wrote:
: Rodney Reid <rreid@earth.execpc.com> wrote:
: }Impossible.  Since there are no 100mhz bus boards out yet, how could you
: }get to 500mhz?

:    You didn't read very carefully:

: }mmkc@ace-net.com.au wrote:
: }:   This is what my new system going to have:  [...list...]
: }: This computer going to be a home use only. Since, I don't think I will
: }: upgrade my comp in a number of years so I would to get a processor
: }: with 500MHz or something like that e.g Alpha...
:                                           ^^^^^
:   You can indeed buy systems with a 500Mhz (or faster) Alpha processor.

: John
: -- 
: John Hascall, Software Engr.        Shut up, be happy.  The conveniences you
: ISU Computation Center              demanded are now mandatory. -Jello Biafra
: mailto:john@iastate.edu
: http://www.cc.iastate.edu/staff/systems/john/welcome.html  <-- the usual crud

Rodney Reid wrote:
> 
> Impossible.  Since there are no 100mhz bus boards out yet, how could you
> get to 500mhz?
>  
> mmkc@ace-net.com.au wrote:
> : This computer going to be a home use only. Since, I don't think I will
> : upgrade my comp in a number of years so I would to get a processor
> : with
> : 500MHz or something like that e.g Alpha... Any suggestions on which
> : processor, motherboard etc. I should get?
> 
See http://www.digital.com/semiconductor/alpha/dsc-pc164lx.html for a
M/b
from Digital that accepts Alpha CPU's clocking up to 600Mhz....

There are a number of vendors using this or other boards and shipping 
Alpha based systems at prices comparable to high end PC's, with
approaching
twice the performance...

Since the company has already announced 625Mhz chips, it seems
reasonable to
expect that faster chips will appear in the PC space before too long. Of
course, WHEN is a totally 'nuther story...

	John Travell. Speaking for myself, not my employer.

> Yep, I too can see the P2's being just a stop gap, same as the first
> pents were. Like you say the jump in performance and future proofness
> is not enough to warrant jumping from socket 7. Now if they start
> talking about P2's at 400 and beyond, that would be different, as
> socket 7 has become dated, we need those new 100mhz+ board design a
> leap in  bus architecture, maybe even as high as capability for a 200
> bus. 4X200, now I'm dreaming ;)
> 
> Socket 8 here we come !!!!!

Slot 2 here we come. According to Intel Slot 1 and 2 will coexist
together, which I find hard to believe. Slot 2 will be soooo 
much cooler then the Slot 1 architexture and would appear
to have such major performance advantages it would be foolish
to go another way (once it's not too $$$ like it will be for
the first few months.. <g>).

-bill

Hi bud,

Have you checked the prices on Alpha CPU's and main boards ? Or do you have
$$$ falling out of  mouth - or are you just rambling! If you are not you
might be better off getting DEC system !

FYI While you are at it why not getting 10.000 rpm's drives with a 14+mb/s
transfer instead of the slower Atlas II ?! You may even want to check out
the Fiber Channel
or the new 64-bit Adaptec cards coming next year ( don't tell me your video
card is 128 bit - i'll scream!

regards,

Henrik

PS: Sorry I couldn't hep my self! ;-)

mmkc@ace-net.com.au wrote:

> hello,
>   This is what my new system going to have:
> #9 Revolution3D AGP video card
> AVerMedia TV-Phone
> Plextor 20x CD ROM
> USR Courier 56.6
> AWE64 Gold
> Quantun AtlasII SCSI 9.1GB
> 64MB SDRAM
> Adaptec 2940UW SCSI
>
> This computer going to be a home use only. Since, I don't think I will
> upgrade my comp in a number of years so I would to get a processor
> with
> 500MHz or something like that e.g Alpha... Any suggestions on which
> processor, motherboard etc. I should get?
>
> please reply via e-mail as well at...
> mmkc@ace-net.com.au
>
> thank you
>
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$3,549 for a 500mhz is not so high since 300mhz PII's are almost that
high.See Enorex.com for prices of 433mhz models for about $2800.
And I have not seen a Pentium MB with 64-bit PCI slots but the Enorex
systems do have them.

                                   Joe

Henrik wrote in message <344793C9.1D8035FF@iinet.net.au>...
>Hi bud,
>
>Have you checked the prices on Alpha CPU's and main boards ? Or do you have
>$$$ falling out of  mouth - or are you just rambling! If you are not you
>might be better off getting DEC system !
>
>FYI While you are at it why not getting 10.000 rpm's drives with a 14+mb/s
>transfer instead of the slower Atlas II ?! You may even want to check out
>the Fiber Channel
>or the new 64-bit Adaptec cards coming next year ( don't tell me your video
>card is 128 bit - i'll scream!
>
>regards,
>
>Henrik
>
>PS: Sorry I couldn't hep my self! ;-)
>
>mmkc@ace-net.com.au wrote:
>
>> hello,
>>   This is what my new system going to have:
>> #9 Revolution3D AGP video card
>> AVerMedia TV-Phone
>> Plextor 20x CD ROM
>> USR Courier 56.6
>> AWE64 Gold
>> Quantun AtlasII SCSI 9.1GB
>> 64MB SDRAM
>> Adaptec 2940UW SCSI
>>
>> This computer going to be a home use only. Since, I don't think I will
>> upgrade my comp in a number of years so I would to get a processor
>> with
>> 500MHz or something like that e.g Alpha... Any suggestions on which
>> processor, motherboard etc. I should get?
>>
>> please reply via e-mail as well at...
>> mmkc@ace-net.com.au
>>
>> thank you
>>
>> -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====-----------------------
>>       http://www.dejanews.com/     Search, Read, Post to Usenet
>
>
>

But what good are those 64bit slots right now?   Does anyone know if the NT
5 beta has 64 bit driver support?

Rob Williams
RobCo Incorporated


Joe Ogiba wrote in message ...
>$3,549 for a 500mhz is not so high since 300mhz PII's are almost that
>high.See Enorex.com for prices of 433mhz models for about $2800.
>And I have not seen a Pentium MB with 64-bit PCI slots but the Enorex
>systems do have them.
>
>                                   Joe
>
>Henrik wrote in message <344793C9.1D8035FF@iinet.net.au>...
>>Hi bud,
>>
>>Have you checked the prices on Alpha CPU's and main boards ? Or do you
have
>>$$$ falling out of  mouth - or are you just rambling! If you are not you
>>might be better off getting DEC system !
>>
>>FYI While you are at it why not getting 10.000 rpm's drives with a 14+mb/s
>>transfer instead of the slower Atlas II ?! You may even want to check out
>>the Fiber Channel
>>or the new 64-bit Adaptec cards coming next year ( don't tell me your
video
>>card is 128 bit - i'll scream!
>>
>>regards,
>>
>>Henrik
>>
>>PS: Sorry I couldn't hep my self! ;-)
>>
>>mmkc@ace-net.com.au wrote:
>>
>>> hello,
>>>   This is what my new system going to have:
>>> #9 Revolution3D AGP video card
>>> AVerMedia TV-Phone
>>> Plextor 20x CD ROM
>>> USR Courier 56.6
>>> AWE64 Gold
>>> Quantun AtlasII SCSI 9.1GB
>>> 64MB SDRAM
>>> Adaptec 2940UW SCSI
>>>
>>> This computer going to be a home use only. Since, I don't think I will
>>> upgrade my comp in a number of years so I would to get a processor
>>> with
>>> 500MHz or something like that e.g Alpha... Any suggestions on which
>>> processor, motherboard etc. I should get?
>>>
>>> please reply via e-mail as well at...
>>> mmkc@ace-net.com.au
>>>
>>> thank you
>>>
>>> -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====-----------------------
>>>       http://www.dejanews.com/     Search, Read, Post to Usenet
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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