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Article #51Re: Subnetting Class C IP networks
From: Gary Heston
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 1994 20:23
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 1994 20:23
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In article <CM8Kny.8Ho@eecs.nwu.edu> hpa@nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin) writes: >In article <CM5JM7.D19@cup.hp.com> of comp.sys.novell, > mintz@cup.hp.com (Ken Mintz) writes: >> Not 128 specifically, but certainly other values, such as 192, 224 etc. >> The problem with 128 per se is that that creates a one-bit subnet id. >> Since all-zero and all-one values have special meaning, subnet id and host >> id fields must comprise at least __two__ bits each. >Nope, sorry. Not for a *network* number. However, all 0 and all 1 >for a *host* number are the clueless and the broadcast addresses, >respectively. There are differences between "network" and "subnet" masks; they aren't the same thing. Ken is correct in his two-bit minimum statement. >Hence, a one-bit subnet mask is perfectly valid, albeit a bit silly. No, it's specifically stated as not acceptable. Check RFC 950, page 6. >However, the subnet mask 255.255.255.254 would be invalid, since each >subnet would consist of only the clueless and the broadcast address. >> PS: Some implementations do permit one-bit subnet ids, but this is non- >> conformant. >No, they are not. Any application that does *not* permit a one-bit >subnet id is nonconformant. They *are* non-conformant, and will stay that way until someone writes a new RFC and gets it approved--something I don't consider likely. -- Gary Heston SCI Systems, Inc. gary@sci.com site admin The Chairman of the Board and the CFO speak for SCI. I'm neither. "Quit while you're ahead. All the best gamblers do." Baltasar Gracian
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fe659,5d0c824272d4a044 X-Google-Attributes: gidfe659,public X-Google-Thread: 10f035,5d0c824272d4a044 X-Google-Attributes: gid10f035,public X-Google-Thread: fcda7,5d0c824272d4a044 X-Google-Attributes: gidfcda7,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1994-03-07 12:23:25 PST Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp.hpux,comp.sys.novell,bit.listserv.novell Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!gmd.de!newsserver.jvnc.net!darwin.sura.net!nuance.com!scisysgw!sci34hub!gary From: gary@sci34hub.sci.com (Gary Heston) Subject: Re: Subnetting Class C IP networks Message-ID: <1994Mar7.202325.12572@sci34hub.sci.com> Reply-To: gary@sci34hub.sci.com (Gary Heston) Organization: SCI Systems, Inc., Huntsville, Al. References: <1994Mar4.142909.12080@cherokee.nsuok.edu> <CM5JM7.D19@cup.hp.com> <CM8Kny.8Ho@eecs.nwu.edu> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 20:23:25 GMT Lines: 39