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Article #60Re: Subnetting Class C IP networks
From: H. Peter Anvin N9ITP
Date: Sun, 06 Mar 1994 09:21
Date: Sun, 06 Mar 1994 09:21
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In article <CM5JM7.D19@cup.hp.com> of comp.sys.novell, mintz@cup.hp.com (Ken Mintz) writes: > Mark Landin (landin@cherokee.nsuok.edu) wrote: > > Can you subnet a Class C address, say by using a mask like 255.255.255.128? > > Not 128 specifically, but certainly other values, such as 192, 224 etc. > The problem with 128 per se is that that creates a one-bit subnet id. > Since all-zero and all-one values have special meaning, subnet id and host > id fields must comprise at least __two__ bits each. Nope, sorry. Not for a *network* number. However, all 0 and all 1 for a *host* number are the clueless and the broadcast addresses, respectively. Hence, a one-bit subnet mask is perfectly valid, albeit a bit silly. However, the subnet mask 255.255.255.254 would be invalid, since each subnet would consist of only the clueless and the broadcast address. > PS: Some implementations do permit one-bit subnet ids, but this is non- > conformant. No, they are not. Any application that does *not* permit a one-bit subnet id is nonconformant. /hpa -- INTERNET: hpa@nwu.edu FINGER/TALK: hpa@ahab.eecs.nwu.edu IBM MAIL: I0050052 at IBMMAIL HAM RADIO: N9ITP or SM4TKN FIDONET: 1:115/511 or 1:115/512 STORMNET: 181:294/101 ... .- -- ... -.. --- .. - --- -. - .... . .- .. .-. .-.-.-
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fcda7,5d0c824272d4a044 X-Google-Attributes: gidfcda7,public X-Google-Thread: fe659,5d0c824272d4a044 X-Google-Attributes: gidfe659,public X-Google-Thread: 10f035,5d0c824272d4a044 X-Google-Attributes: gid10f035,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1994-03-06 01:21:32 PST Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp.hpux,comp.sys.novell,bit.listserv.novell Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!gmd.de!xlink.net!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!news.eecs.nwu.edu!ahab.eecs.nwu.edu!hpa From: hpa@ahab.eecs.nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin N9ITP) Subject: Re: Subnetting Class C IP networks Message-ID: <CM8Kny.8Ho@eecs.nwu.edu> Sender: usenet@eecs.nwu.edu Reply-To: hpa@nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin) Organization: Hierarchial directory structure References: <1994Mar4.142909.12080@cherokee.nsuok.edu> <CM5JM7.D19@cup.hp.com> Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 09:21:32 GMT Lines: 32