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Hey Bruce.  i've gotta tell you, this is the funniest thing i've heard
in quite a while.  i've been doing this headhunting for about three
years and i hear newbies say stupid stuff like this all the time and
it cracks me up.  one of the marketing girls in a company i used to
work with actually came back with a job order for a senior p/a with 15
years experience on the as/400 (and this was 2 years ago!).

i guess i can laugh at some of us in this industry, including myself
sometimes, but there are also a lot of smart headhunters who do good
work for folks and provide a great source of information and resources
(especially for contractors).   For example, a guy calls our office
with the job in hand but needed a company to contract through because
the end client would not accept 1099 or corp to corp arrangements.  He
would not have been able to do the contract without our "help".
Another gentleman wanted to switch jobs but could not because of a
non-compete clause in a contract that he had unwittingly signed.  Our
company hired him to do work for us thereby insulating him from
possible legal ugliness.  

  i read a lot of recruiters getting flak on this newsgroup, for
posting jobs with low wages or unreasonable requirements for
education, etc.  the consensus (maybe it's the "aspiring" loudmouth
minority) seems to be that recruiters are a bunch of imbeciles and
that programmers wages would be double what they are if it weren't for
the greedy agencies getting their huge fees.  however, in our economy,
if a service or industry is superfluous and truly does not provide
value, then it does not succeed and is phased out.  With all of these
headhunting firms and consulting firms posting record profits and
expanding from here to timbuktu, i'm thinking that some of them are
doing something right.   

regards,

rick machado
comsys technical services
emachado@comsysinc.com
407.670.7764





On Tue, 26 May 1998 23:41:35 -0500, "Bruce Anderson"
<Bruce_Andersonb@email.msn.com> wrote:

>I am a contractor, in the Dallas area, with 22 years with IBM midrange
>systems(sys/32 - AS/400).  My contract was ending and I had sent out several
>resumes trying to find a good fit somewhere.  I got a call from a HH the
>other day.  She had my resume, knew that I have 6 years on the AS/400 and 9
>years on the Sys/38.  She wanted to send me on a very lowball job interview.
>When I asked her if her company had anyone that knew what the AS/400 market
>was like, she became very belligerent.  I told her that I would not be
>working with her and told her thanks for calling but. . .   She had the
>balls to tell me that if "you had 15 - 20 years with the AS/400 I MIGHT be
>able to help you."  Goes to show that you need to interview the HH before
>they send you out on a job interview.
>
>My $.02
>
>Bruce
>
>Richard Daniels wrote in message ...
>--------------------------------------------SNIP----------------------------
>--------------------------------
>>While I hate job postings in this group, I'm beginning to wonder they may
>convey
>>clues of where the AS/400 is going.  Could it be that we need to educate
>HH's so that
>>they can become better at discriminating between contract opportunities and
>>legitimate long term permanent employment?
>>
>><jumps off soapbox>
>>
>>Dick Daniels
>>WYNTH,Inc
>>
>>
>>General Employment-Schaumubrg wrote:
>>>
>>> RPG400 Programmer to $45,000, D.O.E.
>>> Please refer to FULLTIME PERMANENT POSITION # BK52211-A
>>> Location.......Chicago, Near North Side, Illinois
>>> Pluses:...............current
>>> Education....BS or open
>>> Benefits..................excellent, profit sharing
>>>
>>> A reply with your attached (or inline text)
>>> resume by E-MAIL is preferred!
>>> mailto:sch@genp.com
>>> (.doc , .rtf or .txt only, please)
>>>
>>> or FAX 847-240-1671 or Call 847-240-1233
>>>
>>> or mail resume to:
>>>
>>> GENERAL  EMPLOYMENT
>>> Information Technology Staffing
>>> 1101 Perimeter Drive, Suite 735
>>> Schaumburg  IL  60173-5840
>
>