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try disabling external cache

wjcheng

Eskil Brandvik <eXNo-SpamXbrandvi@online.no> wrote in message
news:3776041b.5313624@news.online.no...
> ..all I get is black screen at bootup.
>
> Specs: AMD K6 266mhz, Chaintech 5agm (VIA VP3 chipset, 66mhz) w/128 MB
> RAM, WD 9,1 GB HD w/2MB cache.
>
> I may be flogging a dead horse running the V3-3K on such a
> non-PII-setup, but I'd be grateful for *any* tips on this one.
>
> (I'd prefer waiting till autumn before investing in new CPU/MB... :)
>
>
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> <Eskil Brandvik> ebrandvi@online.no
>            Hyggen, NORWAY

my system runs just fine.  K6-3 on super7 setup
Eskil Brandvik wrote:

> ..all I get is black screen at bootup.
>
> Specs: AMD K6 266mhz, Chaintech 5agm (VIA VP3 chipset, 66mhz) w/128 MB
> RAM, WD 9,1 GB HD w/2MB cache.
>
> I may be flogging a dead horse running the V3-3K on such a
> non-PII-setup, but I'd be grateful for *any* tips on this one.
>
> (I'd prefer waiting till autumn before investing in new CPU/MB... :)
>
> --
> <Eskil Brandvik> ebrandvi@online.no
>            Hyggen, NORWAY

here's something that worked for me.  i was having the same problem after
i installed my card: i got a blank screen and the thing just wouldn't
boot.  i also heard a loud beep when i first turned it on.  so i put my
old video card back in, went to the system properties and removed my old
video driver.  then i turned it off, took out the old card and put in the
voodoo3.  when i booted up again, it worked fine.  hope it works for you.

john

Eskil Brandvik wrote:

> ..all I get is black screen at bootup.
>
> Specs: AMD K6 266mhz, Chaintech 5agm (VIA VP3 chipset, 66mhz) w/128 MB
> RAM, WD 9,1 GB HD w/2MB cache.
>
> I may be flogging a dead horse running the V3-3K on such a
> non-PII-setup, but I'd be grateful for *any* tips on this one.
>
> (I'd prefer waiting till autumn before investing in new CPU/MB... :)
>
> --
> <Eskil Brandvik> ebrandvi@online.no
>            Hyggen, NORWAY

On Sat, 26 Jun 1999 01:05:46 -0400, John Han <gman2b@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>here's something that worked for me.  i was having the same problem after
>i installed my card: i got a blank screen and the thing just wouldn't
>boot.  i also heard a loud beep when i first turned it on.  so i put my
>old video card back in, went to the system properties and removed my old
>video driver.  then i turned it off, took out the old card and put in the
>voodoo3.  when i booted up again, it worked fine.  hope it works for you.
>

Thanks.
I've done it: (Control Panel-Display-Advanced-Standard VGA 16 colours
card, -shutdown, olde Viper330/Pure3D out, -V3 in, Power ON and once
again --> the system hangs pre-POST and locks up. No matter how I
fuddle about in BIOS during SETUP this rig locks up.
<Got an Award BIOS dated 03/04/98 with lots of bells & whistles.>

My theory being that the Chaintech 5AGM/Via VP3 chipset combined with
266 mhz K6 (not K6-2 3D-Now etc.) can't hack a V3.

Anyone got an idea about K6-V3 compatibility vs. K6-2/III ditto?
(I've been to AMD's site and they only list 1 year+ old hardware
as "compatible" etc.)

  
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<Eskil Brandvik> ebrandvi@online.no
           Hyggen, NORWAY

On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 21:32:44 -0500, "Cigarette"
<winston_cheng@hotmail.com> wrote:

>try disabling external cache
>

Done. (as per enclosed V3 manual that one)
Still no dice; black screen/no POST.


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<Eskil Brandvik> ebrandvi@online.no
           Hyggen, NORWAY

actually, what i meant was actually remove ALL video drivers, not set it to
standard vga display.  i tried that first and it didn't work, but when i
highlighted the standard vga display and then clicked remove, it worked.
sorry if that doesn't work for you, and i hope you find a solution soon.  the
v3 kicks ass.

john

Eskil Brandvik wrote:

> On Sat, 26 Jun 1999 01:05:46 -0400, John Han <gman2b@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
> >here's something that worked for me.  i was having the same problem after
> >i installed my card: i got a blank screen and the thing just wouldn't
> >boot.  i also heard a loud beep when i first turned it on.  so i put my
> >old video card back in, went to the system properties and removed my old
> >video driver.  then i turned it off, took out the old card and put in the
> >voodoo3.  when i booted up again, it worked fine.  hope it works for you.
> >
>
> Thanks.
> I've done it: (Control Panel-Display-Advanced-Standard VGA 16 colours
> card, -shutdown, olde Viper330/Pure3D out, -V3 in, Power ON and once
> again --> the system hangs pre-POST and locks up. No matter how I
> fuddle about in BIOS during SETUP this rig locks up.
> <Got an Award BIOS dated 03/04/98 with lots of bells & whistles.>
>
> My theory being that the Chaintech 5AGM/Via VP3 chipset combined with
> 266 mhz K6 (not K6-2 3D-Now etc.) can't hack a V3.
>
> Anyone got an idea about K6-V3 compatibility vs. K6-2/III ditto?
> (I've been to AMD's site and they only list 1 year+ old hardware
> as "compatible" etc.)
>
>
> --
> <Eskil Brandvik> ebrandvi@online.no
>            Hyggen, NORWAY

actually, what i meant was remove ALL video drivers, not set it to standard
vga display.  i tried that first and it didn't work, but when i highlighted
the standard vga display and then clicked remove, it worked.  sorry if that
doesn't work for you, and i hope you find a solution soon.  the v3 kicks ass.

john

Eskil Brandvik wrote:

> On Sat, 26 Jun 1999 01:05:46 -0400, John Han <gman2b@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
> >here's something that worked for me.  i was having the same problem after
> >i installed my card: i got a blank screen and the thing just wouldn't
> >boot.  i also heard a loud beep when i first turned it on.  so i put my
> >old video card back in, went to the system properties and removed my old
> >video driver.  then i turned it off, took out the old card and put in the
> >voodoo3.  when i booted up again, it worked fine.  hope it works for you.
> >
>
> Thanks.
> I've done it: (Control Panel-Display-Advanced-Standard VGA 16 colours
> card, -shutdown, olde Viper330/Pure3D out, -V3 in, Power ON and once
> again --> the system hangs pre-POST and locks up. No matter how I
> fuddle about in BIOS during SETUP this rig locks up.
> <Got an Award BIOS dated 03/04/98 with lots of bells & whistles.>
>
> My theory being that the Chaintech 5AGM/Via VP3 chipset combined with
> 266 mhz K6 (not K6-2 3D-Now etc.) can't hack a V3.
>
> Anyone got an idea about K6-V3 compatibility vs. K6-2/III ditto?
> (I've been to AMD's site and they only list 1 year+ old hardware
> as "compatible" etc.)
>
>
> --
> <Eskil Brandvik> ebrandvi@online.no
>            Hyggen, NORWAY

Locks up every time?   My new K6-2 366-66 would lock up about 3 of 4
boots, but I found a patch on microsoft site.  It was actually a
Windows95 problem with the AMD.

Eskil Brandvik wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 21:32:44 -0500, "Cigarette"
> <winston_cheng@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >try disabling external cache
> >
>
> Done. (as per enclosed V3 manual that one)
> Still no dice; black screen/no POST.
>
> --
> <Eskil Brandvik> ebrandvi@online.no
>            Hyggen, NORWAY

Lee & Anna Hanson wrote in message <3774CAAB.26050ED8@flash.net>...
>Locks up every time?   My new K6-2 366-66 would lock up about 3 of 4
>boots, but I found a patch on microsoft site.  It was actually a
>Windows95 problem with the AMD.

That patch doesn't apply to his 266 though so he really doesn't need it.  In
fact, if he did apply that patch then that might actually cause problems as
there is a warning not to install it unless you have the faster CPU version.

FWIW, I also have a V3 3000 running on an MVP3 Tekram mainboard and using a
K6-2 300 on Win98 with zero problems.  Everything runs great.

I think that he might just simply have a bad card.  He may need to exchange
it.

He could also try checking his CMOS setup for an option to use AGP over PCI
or vise-versa.  He may want to try turning AGP Tex Swap support off or on in
CMOS.  Also check to make sure the card is properly seated,  is the cable
plugged in all the way etc.  Check the simple stuff first.  Just a thought.

On Sat, 26 Jun 1999 12:38:42 GMT, Lee & Anna Hanson
<lahanson@flash.net> wrote:

>Locks up every time?   My new K6-2 366-66 would lock up about 3 of 4
>boots, but I found a patch on microsoft site.  It was actually a
>Windows95 problem with the AMD.
>

Been there too; it's actually a dedicated patch for the K6-2 350
meant to adress Win95 problems.

Could it be the K6 can't hack it while the K6-2 can? Hmm...


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<Eskil Brandvik> ebrandvi@online.no
           Hyggen, NORWAY

On Sat, 26 Jun 1999 11:22:47 -0500, "Gonzo" <gonzo@n-link.com> wrote:
>
>FWIW, I also have a V3 3000 running on an MVP3 Tekram mainboard and using a
>K6-2 300 on Win98 with zero problems.  Everything runs great.
>

The 5AGM can only cope with just that K6-2 300 as the fastest
compatible listed CPU, so I'm pondering over buying one as a
short-term solution. I'd rather ride my motorcycle right now than
spend dosh on PC hardware.

..but then again; once you're hooked etc...  :)

>I think that he might just simply have a bad card.  He may need to exchange
>it.
>

I agree.
I'll take it back to the store and check it out on monday.

>He could also try checking his CMOS setup for an option to use AGP over PCI
>or vise-versa.  

Done.

>He may want to try turning AGP Tex Swap support off or on in
>CMOS.  

That's a new one. Thanks.

>Also check to make sure the card is properly seated,  is the cable
>plugged in all the way etc.  Check the simple stuff first.  Just a thought.

Been there etc. Thanks anyway.


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<Eskil Brandvik> ebrandvi@online.no
           Hyggen, NORWAY

On Sat, 26 Jun 1999 11:22:47 -0500, "Gonzo" <gonzo@n-link.com> wrote:
>
>FWIW, I also have a V3 3000 running on an MVP3 Tekram mainboard and using a
>K6-2 300 on Win98 with zero problems.  Everything runs great.
>

The 5AGM can only cope with just that K6-2 300, so I'm pondering over
buying one as a short-term solution. I'd rather ride my motorcycle
right now than spend dosh on PC hardware.

..but then again; once you're hooked etc...  :)

>I think that he might just simply have a bad card.  He may need to exchange
>it.
>

I agree.
I'll take it back to the store and check it out on monday.

>He could also try checking his CMOS setup for an option to use AGP over PCI
>or vise-versa.  

Done.

>He may want to try turning AGP Tex Swap support off or on in
>CMOS.  

That's a new one. Thanks.

>Also check to make sure the card is properly seated,  is the cable
>plugged in all the way etc.  Check the simple stuff first.  Just a thought.

Been there etc. Thanks anyway.


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<Eskil Brandvik> ebrandvi@online.no
           Hyggen, NORWAY

Eskil Brandvik wrote in message <3776198c.1046643@news.online.no>...
>On Sat, 26 Jun 1999 11:22:47 -0500, "Gonzo" <gonzo@n-link.com> wrote:
>>
>>FWIW, I also have a V3 3000 running on an MVP3 Tekram mainboard and using
a
>>K6-2 300 on Win98 with zero problems.  Everything runs great.
>>
>
>The 5AGM can only cope with just that K6-2 300, so I'm pondering over
>buying one as a short-term solution. I'd rather ride my motorcycle
>right now than spend dosh on PC hardware.

Well, my P5MVP-A4 can handle a K6-III and goes all the way up to 450Mhz.  I
can also set it manually to 100x5.5=550Mhz although it probably wouldn't
boot with it.  AMD is saying that it will have a 500Mhz version of the K6-2
and/or III out soon.  The only thing I don't like about the board is it's
125Meg Caching limit because of its measly 512k onbd cache.  128 Megs is
what I have now so Im kind of stuck there for now.

I did own an FIC VA-503+ AT board that also ran well with the V3 but it
would not run my generic PC100 SDRAM at 100Mhz where this Tekram ATX board
does so with no problems.

The Tekram board seems a little slower than my 503+ board but it also seems
more stable so it's a nice trade-off.  This was my first ATX board and I
will never go back to AT again.  It's so much simpler and cleaner to
install.

I have a MicroStar 5169 mthrboard with ALI chipset, V3 2000 & a AMD K6-2 300
cpu.  I've tried all the BIOS flashes new & old available, changed BIOS
settings, & fresh installs of Win95 & Win98 but I still get occasional blue
screens with .vxd errors & reboot/registry errors as well.  Everything runs
fine if I use my old ATI Mach32 card.  Win95 seems most stable especially if
I use IE4 & not IE5.  Hope they put out some new V3 drivers soon.

Have you removed all previous video driver files and registery entrys?
Go to 3DFX's website, go to support and use thier 800 number!
Dauntlas

Eskil Brandvik wrote in message <377564b7.517889@news.online.no>...
>On Sat, 26 Jun 1999 01:05:46 -0400, John Han <gman2b@earthlink.net>
>wrote:
>
>>here's something that worked for me.  i was having the same problem after
>>i installed my card: i got a blank screen and the thing just wouldn't
>>boot.  i also heard a loud beep when i first turned it on.  so i put my
>>old video card back in, went to the system properties and removed my old
>>video driver.  then i turned it off, took out the old card and put in the
>>voodoo3.  when i booted up again, it worked fine.  hope it works for you.
>>
>
>Thanks.
>I've done it: (Control Panel-Display-Advanced-Standard VGA 16 colours
>card, -shutdown, olde Viper330/Pure3D out, -V3 in, Power ON and once
>again --> the system hangs pre-POST and locks up. No matter how I
>fuddle about in BIOS during SETUP this rig locks up.
><Got an Award BIOS dated 03/04/98 with lots of bells & whistles.>
>
>My theory being that the Chaintech 5AGM/Via VP3 chipset combined with
>266 mhz K6 (not K6-2 3D-Now etc.) can't hack a V3.
>
>Anyone got an idea about K6-V3 compatibility vs. K6-2/III ditto?
>(I've been to AMD's site and they only list 1 year+ old hardware
>as "compatible" etc.)
>
>
>--
><Eskil Brandvik> ebrandvi@online.no
>           Hyggen, NORWAY

Eskil Brandvik wrote:

> Specs: AMD K6 266mhz, Chaintech 5agm (VIA VP3 chipset, 66mhz) 

Don't know about chaintech, but FIC has a Via board with a under-spec'd
voltage regulator on the AGP. The result of a V3 is that the regulator
blows since the V3 pulls too much current.

On Sun, 27 Jun 1999 06:37:22 GMT, "Eric S. Boltz"
<eboltz@nospamflash.net> wrote:

>Don't know about chaintech, but FIC has a Via board with a under-spec'd
>voltage regulator on the AGP. The result of a V3 is that the regulator
>blows since the V3 pulls too much current.

Nah; unless the AGP-port/VIA chipset/voltage reg. on the 5AGM doesn't
hack it with a V3 board my own (guesstimated) theory goes more towards
the K6 lacking PII cpu capabilities, forcing a bootup lock. 

Dunno if a K6-2 300mhz (the fastest AMD this MB can take) will help as
a short- term solution. Guess it's time to step up to the ATX crowd
(huff, puff, pant, pant etc.) and consider a Celery.
 
What puzzles me is that when I take the V3 out and put back the Viper
V330/Pure3D combo all things work like stink again.

Them is the breaks.  :-(


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<Eskil Brandvik> ebrandvi@online.no
           Hyggen, NORWAY