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Article #152Re: Deus Ex - RPG?
From: Anders Albrechtsen
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 23:01
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 23:01
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"Simon Nejmann" <snejmann@worldonline.dk> wrote in message news:uli1tvo910k8lgbiduductr3bl7i956mm8@4ax.com... > On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 05:52:13 -0800, "perrer nerd" > <perenerd@operamail.com> wrote: > > >"Arcana Dragon" <this@ress.is.invalid.com> wrote in message > >news:3fd05b22$0$30069$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk... > >> > >> There's an ongoing discussion in the danish PC Gaming group on whether > >Deus > >> Ex (1&2) are CRPG's or FPS's. > >> > >> My opinion is that it's CRPG's. Any input appreciated. > > > >I would say it's both, but is there a common definition of > >CRPG you are using? > > Nope (does one exist?), and thats the problem... > > Guy A says: Don't discuss Deus Ex 2 in this group (dk.spil.computer, > spil = games) - use dk.spil.computer.fps instead because Deus Ex 2 is > a first person shooter. > > Guy B says: No, here is fine because Deus Ex 2 isn't a first person > shooter; it's a role playing game. Just to clarify my position (Guy B): I regard Deus Ex 2 as an action adventure since it contains elements from several genres including RPG, Adventure and Action (first person shooter). I posted in "dk.spil.computer" since we don't have a specific group for games with action elements or mixed genres such as "comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action", but just a general group "dk.spil.computer" and a sub-group "dk.spil.computer.first.person.shooter". This is unfortunate since games like Max Payne 1/2 and Freedom Fighters cannot be discussed in the same group as Medal of Honor and No One Lives Forever (because they use a 3rd person perspective) even though they are very similar. Game like Deus Ex and Morrowind hardly fit the first person shooter genre either which means that they should be discussed in "dk.spil.computer". However according to Guy A (Gerner) it is fine to discuss all games that use a first person perspective in the "dk.spil.computer.first.person.shooter" group, whether they have a shooting element or not. In his opinion all games that use a first person perspective are defined as first person shooters. I disagree since a first person shooter is a well-defined genre where shooting elements dominate the gameplay. > At this point the discussion has come to the: "You are stupid", "No, > you are stupid" stage. I think this is oversimplified. I admit calling Guy A's comments in regards to the placement of the thread rediculous and annoying, but I never called him stupid. --- Regards, Anders (Guy B)
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