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On Sun, 26 Apr 1998 17:51:43 +0200,Webguden <steinbitt@of.telia.no>
wrote:

>Is there anyone out there who owns a jvc recorder?
>Is it any good? Does it burn audio cd without problems?
>dao? tao? dae?
>Is there any problems with the machine at all?
>I will be grateful for any info!
>Regards
>Knut


Avoid JVC cd-r like the plague.  Worst piece of computer hardware I
have ever owned...and I have owned a lot!

Webguden wrote:

> Is there anyone out there who owns a jvc recorder?
> Is it any good? Does it burn audio cd without problems?
> dao? tao? dae?
> Is there any problems with the machine at all?
> I will be grateful for any info!
> Regards
> Knut

 I own a JVC XR-W2042 and it works fine (x2 x2 x6). Never got a problem
with it. A friend of mine owns a XR-W2010 (x2 x4) and it's the same...
No problem. No coaster.
They are DAO TAO compatable, and they do DAE very well...

Greetings,

JR

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Jean-Roch Dumas <jrdumas@imaginet.fr> wrote:

>Webguden wrote:
>
>> Is there anyone out there who owns a jvc recorder?
>> Is it any good? Does it burn audio cd without problems?
>> dao? tao? dae?
>> Is there any problems with the machine at all?
>> I will be grateful for any info!
>> Regards
>> Knut
>
> I own a JVC XR-W2042 and it works fine (x2 x2 x6). Never got a problem
>with it. A friend of mine owns a XR-W2010 (x2 x4) and it's the same...
>No problem. No coaster.
>They are DAO TAO compatable, and they do DAE very well...

The XR-W2010 is known to be defective (in design and implementation).
Suggesting that the XR-W2042 is as good as the XR-W2010 is damning the
product with faint praise.

-- 
Best regards,
John  mailto:JNavas@NavasGrp.Dublin.CA.US  http://www.aimnet.com/~jnavas/

In article <3543580F.6C871524@of.telia.no>, steinbitt@of.telia.no says...
>
>Is there anyone out there who owns a jvc recorder?
>Is it any good? Does it burn audio cd without problems?
>dao? tao? dae?
>Is there any problems with the machine at all?
>I will be grateful for any info!

We ve two JVC 2010 without any problems since 2 years.


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John Navas wrote:

> [POSTED TO comp.publish.cdrom.hardware]
> Jean-Roch Dumas <jrdumas@imaginet.fr> wrote:
>
> >Webguden wrote:
> >
> >> Is there anyone out there who owns a jvc recorder?
> >> Is it any good? Does it burn audio cd without problems?
> >> dao? tao? dae?
> >> Is there any problems with the machine at all?
> >> I will be grateful for any info!
> >> Regards
> >> Knut
> >
> > I own a JVC XR-W2042 and it works fine (x2 x2 x6). Never got a problem
> >with it. A friend of mine owns a XR-W2010 (x2 x4) and it's the same...
> >No problem. No coaster.
> >They are DAO TAO compatable, and they do DAE very well...
>
> The XR-W2010 is known to be defective (in design and implementation).
> Suggesting that the XR-W2042 is as good as the XR-W2010 is damning the
> product with faint praise.

So I guess it's much better. I can just tell you that my XR-W2042 works
perfectly. I already burned a lot of CDs with it, and never got a coaster,
whatever can be the CDr type/brand or the software...
What should I expect more ? When I see those postings relating problems
concerning the Yamaha/Ricoh/HP or others CD writers, I realize I'm very happy
with my JVC...

Greetings,

JR

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Jean-Roch Dumas <jrdumas@imaginet.fr> wrote:

>John Navas wrote:
>
>> [POSTED TO comp.publish.cdrom.hardware]
>> Jean-Roch Dumas <jrdumas@imaginet.fr> wrote:
>>
>> > I own a JVC XR-W2042 and it works fine (x2 x2 x6). Never got a problem
>> >with it. A friend of mine owns a XR-W2010 (x2 x4) and it's the same...
>> >No problem. No coaster.
>> >They are DAO TAO compatable, and they do DAE very well...
>>
>> The XR-W2010 is known to be defective (in design and implementation).
>> Suggesting that the XR-W2042 is as good as the XR-W2010 is damning the
>> product with faint praise.
>
>So I guess it's much better. I can just tell you that my XR-W2042 works
>perfectly. I already burned a lot of CDs with it, and never got a coaster,
>whatever can be the CDr type/brand or the software...

There's a lot more to a CD-R drive than whether you get obvious coasters
or not.

The XR-W2010 had a nasty habit of transferring corrupted data (without
error) back to the host.  It was fairly rare, so it was very hard to
notice.  While it had obvious implications for using the drive as a
reader, it also raised questions about its reliability in DAE and
multi-session recording.  Given the failure of JVC Information Systems to
correct the problem after it had been pointed out, I would never trust any
JVC Information Systems product.

>What should I expect more ? When I see those postings relating problems
>concerning the Yamaha/Ricoh/HP or others CD writers, I realize I'm very happy
>with my JVC...

There are reported problems with *any* product, no matter how perfect, and
products with high market share tend to have more reports than products
with low market share, even if they are superior, so you have to be *very*
careful in assessing reports posted here.  The Yamaha and Ricoh drives are
superb products.  Likewise the Matsushita/Panasonic CW-7502.  And Teac is
also very good.  I would rank all of them way ahead of any JVC drive.
YMMV.

-- 
Best regards,
John  mailto:JNavas@NavasGrp.Dublin.CA.US  http://www.aimnet.com/~jnavas/

John Navas wrote:

> [POSTED TO comp.publish.cdrom.hardware]
> Jean-Roch Dumas <jrdumas@imaginet.fr> wrote:
>
> >John Navas wrote:
> >
> >> [POSTED TO comp.publish.cdrom.hardware]
> >> Jean-Roch Dumas <jrdumas@imaginet.fr> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I own a JVC XR-W2042 and it works fine (x2 x2 x6). Never got a problem
> >> >with it. A friend of mine owns a XR-W2010 (x2 x4) and it's the same...
> >> >No problem. No coaster.
> >> >They are DAO TAO compatable, and they do DAE very well...
> >>
> >> The XR-W2010 is known to be defective (in design and implementation).
> >> Suggesting that the XR-W2042 is as good as the XR-W2010 is damning the
> >> product with faint praise.
> >
> >So I guess it's much better. I can just tell you that my XR-W2042 works
> >perfectly. I already burned a lot of CDs with it, and never got a coaster,
> >whatever can be the CDr type/brand or the software...
>
> There's a lot more to a CD-R drive than whether you get obvious coasters
> or not.
>
> The XR-W2010 had a nasty habit of transferring corrupted data (without
> error) back to the host.  It was fairly rare, so it was very hard to
> notice.  While it had obvious implications for using the drive as a
> reader, it also raised questions about its reliability in DAE and
> multi-session recording.  Given the failure of JVC Information Systems to
> correct the problem after it had been pointed out, I would never trust any
> JVC Information Systems product.
>
> >What should I expect more ? When I see those postings relating problems
> >concerning the Yamaha/Ricoh/HP or others CD writers, I realize I'm very happy
> >with my JVC...
>
> There are reported problems with *any* product, no matter how perfect, and
> products with high market share tend to have more reports than products
> with low market share, even if they are superior, so you have to be *very*
> careful in assessing reports posted here.  The Yamaha and Ricoh drives are
> superb products.  Likewise the Matsushita/Panasonic CW-7502.  And Teac is
> also very good.  I would rank all of them way ahead of any JVC drive.
> YMMV.

Well, I guess you're right, since you seem to know those problems much better than
I.
I just hope now that my XR-W2042 works better than the XR-W2010 (I suppose that
JVC has corrected those problems on their latest CD writers...). Until now it
seems to work fine, and it doesn't seem to transfer corrupted datas. Softwares
like Gear use to make comparisons after they have burnt a CD, and I think I would
notice that kind of errors. Anyway I consider a CD with errors as a coaster too,
even if it's readable...

Greetings,

JR