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Article #16Re: Please help diagnose my computer's problem! (Win95/Linux/Dos Extender)
From: David Metcalf
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 1995 03:08
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 1995 03:08
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On 20 Oct 1995 22:49:56 -0500, genie@sashimi.wwa.com (Gene Choi) wrote: Just my input. Are you using a cpu fan? If you are using a fan try putting sum heat sink compound on it and reinstall. I know this sounds strange but I had a problem that heat sink compound fixed! Other than that try replacing simms. I personally think one of your memory simms:( > >Hi there folks, > >I'm having some serious problems with my computer and wished to get >some usenet input as to what could potentially be causing these problems. > >PROBLEM: >Basically the gist of the whole message is that I'm getting >1) Virtual memory error messages in Win95 (crashing program running). >This is especially evident when I run the setup program to add/remove >programs. >2) DOS programs that use lotsa memory (in DOS 6.2/Win95RealDos) crash >with memory address errors. I get this error when I run programs that >use the DOS Extender (and not). DOS extender reports memory address >errors. >3) Linux acts flaky. For example, can boot, and can "ls" but the >kernel turns stale at random (minutes to hours) and ls causes core >dumps. Must be a bad kernel you say? This can't be because until >recently I used this same kernel to leave my comp on for days at >a time with 0 problems. > > >Hardware: >AMD486/100 with SIS 407e (about 5 monthes old) >16 megabytes 30 pin simms, 256k cache >ATI Graphics + 2 megs (2-3 years old) >Future Domains 1680 SCSI >Micropolis 1.7gig SCSI >Plextor 4X SCSI >Mediavision ProSonic >Roland LAPC-1 >(no problems with this setup for at least 5 monthes which is when I had >a motherboard upgrade) > >Indepth: >I've been experiencing this problem lately. One thought was Win95. >But seems not to be the case. I ran Win95 fine for a month now with >no problems until recently. > One thing I did notice is that SOMETIMES, when I boot my >computer from a cold start, it takes about 15 minutes before I start >seeing these virtual memory address crashes in Win95. For example, >I'll cold boot (I mean cold to touch) and run Win95's program add >program, run one of the installed setup program (such as Microsoft >Money's) and have no problems. Wait about 15 minutes and run this >same sequence of events and I'll get a nice window from Win95 saying >Virtual Memory error of sorts. Now I do a warm cold boot (i.e. hit >the reset button after exiting Win95) and restart Win95. Run setup program >immediately, and I'll usually get this error right away. > In DOS I play lotsa games. Virtual Pool, Caesar II, etc. >Caesar crashes randomly with DOS extender messages in DOS, and >VP just hangs (as do many other games in DOS lately). > >My Preliminary conclusion: >1) cache error (but tried turning off cache and still have problems) >2) Processor problem (Did the AMD go berzerk with warmup?) >Can't really test this one but I did run Norton 7's diagnostic utils >testing memory/processor/etc with no problems. >3) main memory problem > a) parity problem - syncing? > tried turning down wait states from 1/2 to 2/3 3/4 etc. > didn't help. > b) warmup problem > didn't know memory really had a warmup thing. Don't > know how to test for this explicitly. Norton/Himem > doesn't report any problems (even after a hard/soft > boot after Win95 Virtual memory errors). > > >So this is my dilemma. I'm praying it's not a memory problem >(memory is so damn expensive!!). And especially more painful is the >fact that these memory chips are 30 pinn simms. Meaning I can't >easily replace a bank that easily (if at all). The motherboard >does support 72 pin simms but before I make this expensive purchase >I want to make sure I've covered all bases and gotten all good >advice. > >So in all, ANY HELP IS GREATLY APPRECIATED!! > >-Gene > >-- >Intel Inside, Microsoft Outside... >(unfortunately)
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: DavidMet@ix.netcom.com (David Metcalf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc Subject: Re: Please help diagnose my computer's problem! (Win95/Linux/Dos Extender) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 1995 03:08:52 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <46cc4q$nv8@ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> References: <469ql4$o51@sashimi.wwa.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ix-lb10-28.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sat Oct 21 8:00:43 PM PDT 1995 X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99a.107