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Article #620Re: Is it possible to actually get a 16 MB/sec data transfer rate w/ an EIDE drive?
From: Keith R. Williams
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 00:00
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 00:00
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On Thu, 4 Dec 1997 04:28:10, hahn@neurocog.lrdc.pitt.edu (Mark Hahn) wrote: > : I'm not sure I understand you comment here, but if you're > : suggesting that IDE drives can do multiple requests, I disagree > : 100%. SCSI drives can re-order requests to meet the physical > : limitations of the drive. I've seen no evidence that IDE drives > : can do this. I woulldn't expect it either. > > there's limited opportunity for tagged command queueing to provide any > benefit, since reasonable OSs already sort device request queues. do you > have some evidence that TCQ is a major win? remember that ATA drives > already do readahead and write-behind in nontrivial-sized caches. If the drive (channel actually) has already been issued a request all is halted until that request is served. SCSI drives can order the responses to better match the requests. IDE simply cannot reorder requests. If you want evidence, put your CDROM on your primary IDE channel and look at your performance tank when it's in use. Again, I'm not saying that SCSI is better than IDE. In some circumstances it is. On the desktop/client side (we're talking x86 here), I know of only one application that needs SCSI (DV). Certainly as x86 systems take over the UNIX world this will change. On the server side, please, there is no competition. But, just because SCSI is better on a server does *not* mean it's better on a client/stand-alone. I don't want SCSI at home! ---- Keith R. Williams krw@ibm.net
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1036bc,aad589958d8c66fd X-Google-Attributes: gid1036bc,public X-Google-Thread: f4d7c,aad589958d8c66fd X-Google-Attributes: gidf4d7c,public X-Google-Thread: f5f89,aad589958d8c66fd X-Google-Attributes: gidf5f89,public X-Google-Thread: 1045b9,aad589958d8c66fd X-Google-Attributes: gid1045b9,public X-Google-Thread: 109e38,aad589958d8c66fd X-Google-Attributes: gid109e38,public From: krw@ibm.net (Keith R. Williams) Subject: Re: Is it possible to actually get a 16 MB/sec data transfer rate w/ an EIDE drive? Date: 1997/12/05 Message-ID: <pLMYl5dhX7hK-pn2-DN4hLbfIfON9@ALEX> X-Deja-AN: 295350100 References: <65l4hv$1hv@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> <01bcfd55$9845f3e0$900189ca@jake> <34816ebd.3850196@news.demon.co.uk> <34819d72.9334338@news.jps.net> <6616i1$ltq@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> <pLMYl5dhX7hK-pn2-pdwb0nxqCNSV@ALEX> <665bgq$el7@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> Reply-To: krw@ibm.net Organization: IBM.NET Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,demon.tech.pc,alt.comp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage