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4 total messages Started by Phil Wilks Wed, 28 May 1997 00:00
Ultra ATA question
#216
Author: Phil Wilks
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 00:00
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Will an Ultra ATA HD, such as the Quantum 4.3gig Fireball work if I
was to connect it to an EIDE card (Promise EIDE4030+).

Thanks.
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Phil Wilks
paws@nor.com.au
Re: Ultra ATA question
#217
Author: Steve Woods
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 00:00
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Ultra ATA requires both a hard drive capable of it (only the Fireball ST
series, not the Fireball TM series from Quantum) _and_ an Ultra DMA
controller (at present only available built in to a few new
motherboards.  EIDE controllers just won't do it.

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Re: Ultra ATA question
#218
Author: Robert Cohen
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 00:00
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Steve Woods <swoods@cyllene.uwa.edu.au> writes:

>Ultra ATA requires both a hard drive capable of it (only the Fireball ST
>series, not the Fireball TM series from Quantum) _and_ an Ultra DMA
>controller (at present only available built in to a few new
>motherboards.  EIDE controllers just won't do it.

To more explicitly answer the original question of whether
an Ultra ATA  drive would work on an EIDE controller;

Yes an Ultra ATA drive will work with an standard EIDE (non ultra ATA)
controller, it just won't make use of the Ultra ATA capabilities.
It will mount using standard mode 4 tranfer.
And I would expect that most users would never notice the difference
since Mode 4 transfer rate is well above the sustained
transfer rates of standard drives.

The only motherboards at present that have Ultra ATA capabilities
are those using the Triton TX chipset.


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Australian National University.            ============================
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Re: Ultra ATA question
#219
Author: Dilithium Computers
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 00:00
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Agreed on all but the chipsets that support it. The Apollo VP-3 (as on the
Rhino-12 motherboard) also has support for this standard, not just the TX.

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Robert Cohen <robert@cs.anu.edu.au> wrote in article
<5mgq8i$dr5@flash.anu.edu.au>...
> Steve Woods <swoods@cyllene.uwa.edu.au> writes:
> 
> >Ultra ATA requires both a hard drive capable of it (only the Fireball ST
> >series, not the Fireball TM series from Quantum) _and_ an Ultra DMA
> >controller (at present only available built in to a few new
> >motherboards.  EIDE controllers just won't do it.
> 
> To more explicitly answer the original question of whether
> an Ultra ATA  drive would work on an EIDE controller;
> 
> Yes an Ultra ATA drive will work with an standard EIDE (non ultra ATA)
> controller, it just won't make use of the Ultra ATA capabilities.
> It will mount using standard mode 4 tranfer.
> And I would expect that most users would never notice the difference
> since Mode 4 transfer rate is well above the sustained
> transfer rates of standard drives.
> 
> The only motherboards at present that have Ultra ATA capabilities
> are those using the Triton TX chipset.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Robert Cohen		                    email: robert@cs.anu.edu.au
> PhD Student,  Dept of Computer Science,
> Australian National University.            ============================
> ----------------------> Run fast, crash young, and leave a pretty core!
> 
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