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2 total messages Started by Fred Klabuster Fri, 19 Mar 1999 00:00
USB -- specialist question.
#816
Author: Fred Klabuster
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 00:00
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Does anyone know why the USB port has two ground / neutral / mass cables
on the board side (i. e. on the other side of where you plug your
equipment in)?  I have an Epox mainboard, BAT sized, and just bought the
USB connector thingie for it.  What I noticed is this:  the USB port has
FOUR visible sprockets, the USB-socket-to-mainboard cable has FIVE
wires, and the mainboard has FOUR sprockets.  When I took it back to the
shop, the salesperson told me that the fourth and fifth wire were both
DC - ground, so that the fifth wire "wasn't really needed".  I find that
a bit hard to believe.  Can anyone tell me what this fifth wire IS and
what it DOES?
Please e.mail me as well as replying to the group.  MANY thanks in
advance.
Re: USB -- specialist question.
#817
Author: Richard
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 00:00
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USB only uses 4 wires for each USB port.  Motherboards usually have two
USB ports in a 5x2 pin block.  Some have a pin missing on the
motherboard and this is I suppose a keying pin to keep the connector on
only one way.  Like mouse connectors on motherboards, Com ports (16th is
not used).

So my guess it is a keying pin.  Some manufactures don't bother with
keying pins and modified connectors as they cost more, they expect you
to line up pin 1 and the cable with the striped wire correctly.

And a lot of connectors have dual grounds, look at audio cables for
CD-ROM to sound cards.  There are four wires Right Ground Ground Left. 
Only more expensive sound cards have a cable using that pattern.  You
are supposed to shield each channel individually.  Instead they cheap
out and shield both channel wires with a common shield leaving a ground
connection free.

I would assume USB cables are being made without the ground shielding
leaving that ground pin on the connector free.

So a keying pin and or shield ground would be my guess.

Fred Klabuster wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know why the USB port has two ground / neutral / mass cables
> on the board side (i. e. on the other side of where you plug your
> equipment in)?  I have an Epox mainboard, BAT sized, and just bought the
> USB connector thingie for it.  What I noticed is this:  the USB port has
> FOUR visible sprockets, the USB-socket-to-mainboard cable has FIVE
> wires, and the mainboard has FOUR sprockets.  When I took it back to the
> shop, the salesperson told me that the fourth and fifth wire were both
> DC - ground, so that the fifth wire "wasn't really needed".  I find that
> a bit hard to believe.  Can anyone tell me what this fifth wire IS and
> what it DOES?
> Please e.mail me as well as replying to the group.  MANY thanks in
> advance.

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