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Re: Problem 80 wire cable for hard disk

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From: Rod Speed
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 18:16
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Desk Rabbit wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Desk Rabbit wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Desk Rabbit wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>> Desk Rabbit wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>>> Desk Rabbit wrote
>>>>>>>>> ClueLess wrote

>>>>>>>>>> Here is a strange problem, when I connect my hard disk using
>>>>>>>>>> the 80 wire cable my computer does not recognize it.

>>>>>>>>>> It happened this way. I had to check another hard disk and so
>>>>>>>>>> I swapped the disks (IDE0) and found it was not recognized.
>>>>>>>>>> Then I connected the original hard disk and it was also not recognized.

>>>>>>>>>> I tried both the IDE0 and IDE1 channels with the same result.
>>>>>>>>>> I tried also other hard disks as well other 80 wire cables, still no go.

>>>>>>>>>> Then I found an old 40 wire cable and when connected with this, bingo, all the hard disks are recognized.

>>>>>>>>>> No pins broken, no hardware damage. All the cablea are in
>>>>>>>>>> good condition. In fact the machine for years worked with
>>>>>>>>>> only the 80 wire cable.

>>>>>>>>>> How does this happen? This is just a banana motherboard and
>>>>>>>>>> the problem is in the bios stage itself. (bios says "Not installed")

>>>>>>>>>> If any of you can give me an explanation or a solution please do

>>>>>>>>> And the hard drive make/model is?
>>>>>>>>> And the motherboard make/model is?
>>>>>>>>> And the BIOS version is?

>>>>>>>> All irrelevant given that the original hard drive isnt recognised anymore.

>>>>>>> Any information is useful at this point.

>>>>>> Wrong again.

>>>>> Without facts and information ant diagnostic is just pure guesswork.

>>>> And I told the OP how to diagnose the problem. No guesswork whatever involved.

>>>>>>> It may be a known problem

>>>>>> Bet it isnt.

>> And it turns out that when he posted that info, it isnt.

>>>>> Could be, maybe not. 50-50 chance of guessing correctly.

>>>> Wrong again. There is a much lower proobability than that that your guess is correct.

>>>>> 100% success with correct information.

>>>> Not with the information you requested there wont be.

>>>>>>> but without knowing what he's got the chances of finding out are less than zero.

>>>>>> Wrong again. The obvious thing to try is a another 80 wire cable and check that the drive connectors are being 
>>>>>> plugged in the right way around if they arent polarised.

>>>>> I strongly suggest you go back and read the OP's message fully

>>>> I know what the OP said.

>>>>> before you dig yourself a deeper hole than you are already in.

>>>> You're the one desperately attempting to bullshit its way out of its predicament.

>>> Translation: Shit! He's right, better launch an attack.

>> Real Translation:  of your shit, I never ever could bullshit my way out of a wet paper bag.

>>>>> I'll draw your attention to the particular sentence which says:

>>>>> "I tried also other hard disks as well other 80 wire cables, still no go."

>>>> Doesnt eliminate the possibility that the OP isnt putting the drive connector on the wrong way around with a non 
>>>> polarised connector on the cable.

>>> Indeed it doesn't but one can reasonable assume that he roughly knows what he is doing in terms of putting cables on 
>>> the right way round as the 40 pin cable works.

>> You dont even know where they are polarised and the 80 wire cable connectors arent.

>>> Please feel free to carry on clutching at random straws, you might hit on a solution by sheer luck eventually ;-)

>> You never did. He posted the info you wanted and it turned out that it didnt help.

>> Funny that.

> Hilarious that another poster was able to post the correct jumper
> settings for the drive because now we know what the OP has.

The OP could have checked that for itself if told to do that without knowing what drive it was.

>> Hilarious, actually.

>> Have fun bullshitting your way out of that.

> Have fun repeatedly swapping cables and wibbling about which way round they should go. It's really quite amusing to 
> watch.

Like I said, you never ever could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag. 
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From: "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Problem 80 wire cable for hard disk
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