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Article #406

Re: Problem 80 wire cable for hard disk

#406
From: Desk Rabbit
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 16:28
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On 02/03/2010 05:48, Rod Speed wrote:
> Desk Rabbit wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Desk Rabbit wrote
>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>> Desk Rabbit wrote
>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>>>>> Desk Rabbit wrote
>>>>>>>> ClueLess wrote
>
>>>>>>>>> Here is a strange problem, when I connect my hard disk using the 80 wire cable my computer does not recognize
>>>>>>>>> it.
>
>>>>>>>>> It happened this way. I had to check another hard disk and so
>>>>>>>>> I swapped the disks (IDE0) and found it was not recognized.
>>>>>>>>> Then I connected the original hard disk and it was also not recognized.
>
>>>>>>>>> I tried both the IDE0 and IDE1 channels with the same result.
>>>>>>>>> I tried also other hard disks as well other 80 wire cables, still no go.
>
>>>>>>>>> Then I found an old 40 wire cable and when connected with this, bingo, all the hard disks are recognized.
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>>>>>>>>> No pins broken, no hardware damage. All the cablea are in good condition. In fact the machine for years worked
>>>>>>>>> with only the 80 wire cable.
>
>>>>>>>>> How does this happen? This is just a banana motherboard and
>>>>>>>>> the problem is in the bios stage itself. (bios says "Not installed")
>
>>>>>>>>> If any of you can give me an explanation or a solution please do
>
>>>>>>>> And the hard drive make/model is?
>>>>>>>> And the motherboard make/model is?
>>>>>>>> And the BIOS version is?
>
>>>>>>> All irrelevant given that the original hard drive isnt recognised anymore.
>
>>>>>> Any information is useful at this point.
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>>>>> Wrong again.
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>>>> Without facts and information ant diagnostic is just pure guesswork.
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>>> And I told the OP how to diagnose the problem. No guesswork whatever involved.
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>>>>>> It may be a known problem
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>>>>> Bet it isnt.
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> And it turns out that when he posted that info, it isnt.
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>>>> Could be, maybe not. 50-50 chance of guessing correctly.
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>>> Wrong again. There is a much lower proobability than that that your guess is correct.
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>>>> 100% success with correct information.
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>>> Not with the information you requested there wont be.
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>>>>>> but without knowing what he's got the chances of finding out are less than zero.
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>>>>> Wrong again. The obvious thing to try is a another 80 wire cable and check that the drive connectors are being
>>>>> plugged in the right way around if they arent polarised.
>
>>>> I strongly suggest you go back and read the OP's message fully
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>>> I know what the OP said.
>
>>>> before you dig yourself a deeper hole than you are already in.
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>>> You're the one desperately attempting to bullshit its way out if its predicament.
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>> Translation: Shit! He's right, better launch an attack.
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> Real Translation:  of your shit, I never ever could bullshit my way out of a wet paper bag.
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>>>> I'll draw your attention to the particular sentence which says:
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>>>> "I tried also other hard disks as well other 80 wire cables, still no go."
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>>> Doesnt eliminate the possibility that the OP isnt putting the drive connector on the wrong way around with a non
>>> polarised connector on the cable.
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>> Indeed it doesn't but one can reasonable assume that he roughly knows what he is doing in terms of putting cables on
>> the right way round as the 40 pin cable works.
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> You dont even know where they are polarised and the 80 wire cable connectors arent.
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>> Please feel free to carry on clutching at random straws, you might hit on a solution by sheer luck eventually ;-)
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> You never did. He posted the info you wanted and it turned out that it didnt help.
>
> Funny that.

Hilarious that another poster was able to post the correct jumper 
settings for the drive because now we know what the OP has.


> Hilarious, actually.
>
> Have fun bullshitting your way out of that.
>
>
Have fun repeatedly swapping cables and wibbling about which way round 
they should go. It's really quite amusing to watch.
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