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Article #665Re: How do you backup a small network of computers?
From: Clive
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 13:55
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 13:55
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"Damien McBain" <askme@for.it> wrote in message news:h5z62r3i58qr$.oy0qqzs7fbte.dlg@40tude.net... > Paul J. Campbell committed to the eternal aether...: > >> I have a home network consisting of two computers connected to a >> small router via 10/100 Mbps ethernet. I have 4 IDE hard disks, each >> 200GB or less. The operating systems are Windows XP SP1 and SP2, >> Windows 98, Linux Red Hat 9, and Linux Fedora Core 3. >> >> Now for the hard bit - what's the easiest way to keep all of these >> IDE hard drives backed up, e.g. if one of my hard drives gets errors and >> fails, I'd preferably like to just replace it with a backed-up >> hard drive and have it work. >> >> I believe I would want one or more backup 'devices' to be connected >> to my router, i.e. I don't think I want to keep opening up my >> computers and keep putting in individual backup hard drives every >> time I want to do a backup. The question is, what should those >> 'devices' be? >> >> I'm a complete novice in backing up, so don't assume that I know >> anything. By all means include any brand names in your answer. >> >> Corporations don't have a lot of time to waste, so how do they do it? >> I don't necessarily mind spending some money if it will give me >> reliability and convenience. >> >> Would hardware RAID 1 or RAID 5 work? >> - Backing up: can the backed-up drive(s) sit on the network >> outside my computer? The original hard drive is obviously >> inside my computer. >> - Restoring: if one of the hard drives >> in my computers fails, can I replace it with a backed-up hard drive >> and have it work? Will both Linux and Windows still work? >> >> I understand that RAID is rather expensive but it may be worth it >> depending on the price. >> >> -- >> If that's possible, then I think this still leaves to have to deal with >> one more backup methodology - if some files get deleted accidently, then >> in the back-ups they will be deleted as well. >> >> So I probably need something which also allows me to do a few >> historical backups. I suppose I need something which can image my hard >> drives, and (to save on cost) with the option to allow incremental >> backups on subsequent backups? >> >> I tried using Norton Ghost 9 in XP SP1 (whilst XP was running - >> apparently >> it's supposed to support this). I did it the hard way by opening >> up my computer and connecting the backup drive to it. (As I wrote above, >> I'd prefer if I could have the backup drive on the network all the >> time, >> if possible). >> >> But it didn't work for me. Some logical drive letters seemed to back up >> fine, others didn't. So I have a portion of the files backed up, >> but the hard drive won't boot - Linux Red Hat 9 complains that >> /boot has a 1-byte size difference compared to what is in the >> Master Boot Record. Whereas Windows XP boots up to the XP logo, >> but that's all it shows - it doesn't give me the normal password prompt. >> On the web this Windows XP problem is mentioned by many people, but >> I could never find a solution. > > The whole thing would be easier if you ran a file server (which could be a > very humble computer with a couple of large HDDs in it). You could store > ALL your files on the server and back it up with tapes or an external hdd. I had an old PC running as a file server/backup device. However one mistake I made. The drives on the backup machine were two SCSI drives and a adaptec controller (which I obtained for free). Worked great for 2 years until the controller, or both drives packed up. I could not justify a new SCSI controller, but luckily both my PC's that I backed up data FROM are still ok. I've since changed to a Netgear SC101 with two mirrored 80gb drives as my backup drives. As an extra precaution I also copy mydocs (plus any important stuff) between both PC's using Save-N-Sync Clive
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