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Article #678Re: How do you backup a small network of computers?
From: Peter
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 16:43
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 16:43
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> I have a home network consisting of two computers connected to a > small router via 10/100 Mbps ethernet. I have 4 IDE hard disks, each > 200GB or less. The operating systems are Windows XP SP1 and SP2, > Windows 98, Linux Red Hat 9, and Linux Fedora Core 3. So that are multiple OS per computer and various file systems too. > Now for the hard bit - what's the easiest way to keep all of these > IDE hard drives backed up, e.g. if one of my hard drives gets errors and > fails, I'd preferably like to just replace it with a backed-up > hard drive and have it work. There is nothing like that. Usually you have to replace failed disk with a new one, THEN restore data on it. > I believe I would want one or more backup 'devices' to be connected > to my router, i.e. I don't think I want to keep opening up my > computers and keep putting in individual backup hard drives every > time I want to do a backup. The question is, what should those > 'devices' be? Any form of disk storage. I do it through a Windows server with additional HDs. > I'm a complete novice in backing up, so don't assume that I know > anything. By all means include any brand names in your answer. > > Corporations don't have a lot of time to waste, so how do they do it? > I don't necessarily mind spending some money if it will give me > reliability and convenience. They usually do not backup user workstations. For other data they have servers. > Would hardware RAID 1 or RAID 5 work? > - Backing up: can the backed-up drive(s) sit on the network > outside my computer? The original hard drive is obviously > inside my computer. RAID over network? Not in consumer market. > - Restoring: if one of the hard drives > in my computers fails, can I replace it with a backed-up hard drive > and have it work? Will both Linux and Windows still work? There is nothing like that yet. > I understand that RAID is rather expensive but it may be worth it > depending on the price. RAID over network? You budget is too small. > If that's possible, then I think this still leaves to have to deal with > one more backup methodology - if some files get deleted accidently, then > in the back-ups they will be deleted as well. You can generate multiple images on schedule basis. > So I probably need something which also allows me to do a few > historical backups. I suppose I need something which can image my hard > drives, and (to save on cost) with the option to allow incremental > backups on subsequent backups? Incremental? Not possible/reliable yet with multiple OSes/FS on one disk More difficult to restore. > I tried using Norton Ghost 9 in XP SP1 (whilst XP was running - apparently > it's supposed to support this). I did it the hard way by opening > up my computer and connecting the backup drive to it. (As I wrote above, > I'd prefer if I could have the backup drive on the network all the time, > if possible). Could use USB external drive. Saves from opening computer case. > But it didn't work for me. Some logical drive letters seemed to back up > fine, others didn't. So I have a portion of the files backed up, > but the hard drive won't boot - Linux Red Hat 9 complains that > /boot has a 1-byte size difference compared to what is in the > Master Boot Record. Whereas Windows XP boots up to the XP logo, > but that's all it shows - it doesn't give me the normal password prompt. > On the web this Windows XP problem is mentioned by many people, but > I could never find a solution. Ghost 9 is a crap anyways. > On the web I've researched a few backup devices. Something like > Netgear Storage Central (SC101) sounds good in that it allows you > to put in your own hard drives of your choice. > > Buffalo TeraStation comes with an attractive 1TB of storage via > 4x250GB hard drives, but I don't believe the hard drives can be taken out? O course they can be taken out. But why? > In any case if my understanding is correct, both of these devices > basically allow you to backup files. By themselves, I think they don't > come with anything to allow me to take full images of my hard disks - is > that correct? That function is in your imaging software which runs on a CLIENT system, not storage device. I boot my client systems with a custom CD, which does a full client PC disk(s) image(s) to a server storage. Unattended image completion and shutdown. Another version of it can restart client system after imaging.
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