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Re: Cheap Enclosure for 4 IDE drives?

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From: Rod Speed
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 20:09
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Dice <dice@wilddice.org> wrote in message
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> Also as an interesting alternative BTW AoE (ATA over Ethernet) has been 
> getting quite a bit of press recently. It isn't in your price range I suspect

Corse it isnt.

> (It really is designed more to be a datacenter solution),

And is completely unsuitable for using some 80G discards.

> but the technology is interesting. http://www.coraid.com for more information.

A basic obsolete PC makes a lot more sense in his situation.


> Dice wrote:
>> j4m4l_$1xp4ck@salmahayeksknockers.edu wrote:
>>
>>>> Or decide that you collection of drives is getting a tad bizarre and
>>>> replace the smaller drives with much bigger drives, say 250G drives.
>>>
>>>
>>> Already done.  These 80GB are the leftovers, but still have life in them.
>>>
>>
>> Dan,
>>
>> I think the USB path isn't a bad idea, but I'll suggest a few things.
>>
>> 1) Buy a separate PCI/USB Controller card (or two) for this, they can be had 
>> as cheap as $30. Because USB is a shared network (and not all that fast to 
>> begin with) spreading the drives across a couple of separate controllers, or 
>> at least dedicating a controller just to this, will greatly improve the 
>> performance. I know that may not be your goal, but neither is something that 
>> is so slow it becomes nearly unusable.
>>
>> 2) Ditch the idea of using a hub, it'll just be a bottleneck.
>>
>> 3) make sure that enclosure has a couple of fans in it besides the power 
>> supply fan, if possible. Hard drive do generate a lot of heat.
>>
>> 4) If you wanted to get real fancy, consider having the drives them selves in 
>> those removable drive bays you can buy, and hook the usb adapter kits to 
>> those. This way you could have the advantages of making it easy to hot swap 
>> drive in and out, and the USB convenience. It would cost a bunch more money, 
>> but it is an interesting idea.
>>
>> 5) If you hook it up to a Linux box, as opposed to a windows one, you might 
>> want to explore using RAID on them to make them appear as a single larger 
>> volume (RAID5). I have no idea how good it would work in practice, but it 
>> might be interesting to play with.
>>
>> Let us know how it turns out. I'd also be interested in knowing if the Ebay 
>> deal pans out. I have two 40GB USB drives, by Microsolutions which use their 
>> goofy backpack (Colorado) hardware. It is a major pain as you need special 
>> drivers to deal with them. I wouldn't mind retrofitting them with a real 
>> USB/IDE kit of some sort.
>>
>
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