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In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage BigAl.NZ@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi Guys,

> I have a rather old Western Digital 20Gig IDE HDD here. The user
> states it started making a noise and of course the computer now wont
> boot.

> I plugged the drive into my PC, and it does not get recognised by the
> Bios (so at the very least the logic board is dead?)

> It makes the following noise repeatedly:

> ftp://homepages.ihug.co.nz/public_html/harddrive.wav

No anon-login here it seems....

> Is this what they call stitchon or is it something else?

If it makes a noise, it is not stiction.

> Anyone able to shed some light?

Likely a case for professional data recovery if the data is 
important and the user was unprofessional enough to
not have a backup. Trash bin otherwise.

Arno

On Sep 4, 9:43 am, Arno Wagner <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage BigAl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Hi Guys,
> > I have a rather old Western Digital 20Gig IDE HDD here. The user
> > states it started making a noise and of course the computer now wont
> > boot.
> > I plugged the drive into my PC, and it does not get recognised by the
> > Bios (so at the very least the logic board is dead?)
> > It makes the following noise repeatedly:
> >ftp://homepages.ihug.co.nz/public_html/harddrive.wav
>
> No anon-login here it seems....
>
> > Is this what they call stitchon or is it something else?
>
> If it makes a noise, it is not stiction.
>
> > Anyone able to shed some light?
>
> Likely a case for professional data recovery if the data is
> important and the user was unprofessional enough to
> not have a backup. Trash bin otherwise.
>
> Arno

Sorry the link should be http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~acgrant/harddrive.wav

<BigAl.NZ@gmail.com> wrote in message 
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> On Sep 4, 9:43 am, Arno Wagner <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage BigAl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > Hi Guys,
>> > I have a rather old Western Digital 20Gig IDE HDD here. The user
>> > states it started making a noise and of course the computer now wont
>> > boot.
>> > I plugged the drive into my PC, and it does not get recognised by the
>> > Bios (so at the very least the logic board is dead?)
>> > It makes the following noise repeatedly:
>> >ftp://homepages.ihug.co.nz/public_html/harddrive.wav
>>
>> No anon-login here it seems....
>>
>> > Is this what they call stitchon or is it something else?
>>
>> If it makes a noise, it is not stiction.
>>
>> > Anyone able to shed some light?
>>
>> Likely a case for professional data recovery if the data is
>> important and the user was unprofessional enough to
>> not have a backup. Trash bin otherwise.
>>
>> Arno
>
> Sorry the link should be 
> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~acgrant/harddrive.wav
>

It's dead!

Two options.

1 Toss it and explain to the owner the virtues of 'backups'
2 Send the drive to one of those recovery outfits that remount the 
platter(s) in a special jig to recover the data. nb have plenty of $$$$$ to 
hand.

Paul.

There is a special technical term for this noise, it starts with "F"

"PeeCee" <abuse@local.host> wrote in message 
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>
> <BigAl.NZ@gmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:1188856515.107599.296970@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
>> On Sep 4, 9:43 am, Arno Wagner <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>>> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage BigAl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> > Hi Guys,
>>> > I have a rather old Western Digital 20Gig IDE HDD here. The user
>>> > states it started making a noise and of course the computer now wont
>>> > boot.
>>> > I plugged the drive into my PC, and it does not get recognised by the
>>> > Bios (so at the very least the logic board is dead?)
>>> > It makes the following noise repeatedly:
>>> >ftp://homepages.ihug.co.nz/public_html/harddrive.wav
>>>
>>> No anon-login here it seems....
>>>
>>> > Is this what they call stitchon or is it something else?
>>>
>>> If it makes a noise, it is not stiction.
>>>
>>> > Anyone able to shed some light?
>>>
>>> Likely a case for professional data recovery if the data is
>>> important and the user was unprofessional enough to
>>> not have a backup. Trash bin otherwise.
>>>
>>> Arno
>>
>> Sorry the link should be 
>> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~acgrant/harddrive.wav
>>
>
> It's dead!
>
> Two options.
>
> 1 Toss it and explain to the owner the virtues of 'backups'
> 2 Send the drive to one of those recovery outfits that remount the 
> platter(s) in a special jig to recover the data. nb have plenty of $$$$$ 
> to hand.
>
> Paul.
>
>
> 

Arno Wagner wrote:
> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage BigAl.NZ@gmail.com wrote:
>> Hi Guys,
> 
>> I have a rather old Western Digital 20Gig IDE HDD here. The user
>> states it started making a noise and of course the computer now wont
>> boot.
> 
>> I plugged the drive into my PC, and it does not get recognised by the
>> Bios (so at the very least the logic board is dead?)
> 
>> It makes the following noise repeatedly:
> 
>> ftp://homepages.ihug.co.nz/public_html/harddrive.wav
> 
> No anon-login here it seems....
> 
>> Is this what they call stitchon or is it something else?
> 
> If it makes a noise, it is not stiction.
> 
>> Anyone able to shed some light?
> 
> Likely a case for professional data recovery if the data is 
> important and the user was unprofessional enough to
> not have a backup. Trash bin otherwise.
> 
> Arno
> 
> 


actually, if it makes a chirping sound, then it's stiction.  that's the 
drive motor trying to spin up and failing to move the platter.  it will 
only do that so many times and then fail.  then your logic board is 
probably good also - it's just that the head is glued to the platter 
with overheated lubricant.
that happens with some MFR's of drives, usually seagate and some others...

you *do* screw the drive into the case don't you?  the more scres the 
better - more heat sinking.  also fans over the general idea are a good 
idea, especially for today's 7200RPM drives.

given that most drives are warrantied for 5 years, my guess is that the 
age of the drive is the issue - the parts are just worn out.

I suggest taking the drive to a data recovery shop.  it will cost you 
about $250-500.  Look one up in the yellow pages under Computers.


-- 

  ------------------------------------
  Jim Michaels
  for email, edit the address

"Because we do not understand the brain very well we are constantly 
tempted to use the latest technology as a model for trying to understand 
it. In my childhood we were always assured that the brain was a 
telephone switchboard. ('What else could it be?') I was amused to see 
that Sherrington, the great British neuroscientist, thought that the 
brain worked like a telegraph system. Freud often compared the brain to 
hydraulic and electro-magnetic systems. Leibniz compared it to a mill, 
and I am told some of the ancient Greeks thought the brain functions 
like a catapult. At present, obviously, the metaphor is the digital 
computer."    - John R Searls.

On Sep 4, 7:12 pm, Jim Michaels <jmichae3REM...@THISPLEASEyahoo.com>
wrote:
> Arno Wagner wrote:
> > In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage BigAl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> Hi Guys,
>
> >> I have a rather old Western Digital 20Gig IDE HDD here. The user
> >> states it started making a noise and of course the computer now wont
> >> boot.
>
> >> I plugged the drive into my PC, and it does not get recognised by the
> >> Bios (so at the very least the logic board is dead?)
>
> >> It makes the following noise repeatedly:
>
> >>ftp://homepages.ihug.co.nz/public_html/harddrive.wav
>
> > No anon-login here it seems....
>
> >> Is this what they call stitchon or is it something else?
>
> > If it makes a noise, it is not stiction.
>
> >> Anyone able to shed some light?
>
> > Likely a case for professional data recovery if the data is
> > important and the user was unprofessional enough to
> > not have a backup. Trash bin otherwise.
>
> > Arno
>
> actually, if it makes a chirping sound, then it's stiction.  that's the
> drive motor trying to spin up and failing to move the platter.  it will
> only do that so many times and then fail.  then your logic board is
> probably good also - it's just that the head is glued to the platter
> with overheated lubricant.
> that happens with some MFR's of drives, usually seagate and some others...
>
> you *do* screw the drive into the case don't you?  the more scres the
> better - more heat sinking.  also fans over the general idea are a good
> idea, especially for today's 7200RPM drives.
>
> given that most drives are warrantied for 5 years, my guess is that the
> age of the drive is the issue - the parts are just worn out.
>
> I suggest taking the drive to a data recovery shop.  it will cost you
> about $250-500.  Look one up in the yellow pages under Computers.
>
> --
>
>   ------------------------------------
>   Jim Michaels
>   for email, edit the address
>
> "Because we do not understand the brain very well we are constantly
> tempted to use the latest technology as a model for trying to understand
> it. In my childhood we were always assured that the brain was a
> telephone switchboard. ('What else could it be?') I was amused to see
> that Sherrington, the great British neuroscientist, thought that the
> brain worked like a telegraph system. Freud often compared the brain to
> hydraulic and electro-magnetic systems. Leibniz compared it to a mill,
> and I am told some of the ancient Greeks thought the brain functions
> like a catapult. At present, obviously, the metaphor is the digital
> computer."    - John R Searls.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thanks for all the replies.

I have come across that sound before at least two or three times now
and wanted to know more about exactely what the problem is? Its F***ed
is very descriptive and enhances my kowledge greatly.

:-)

-Al

Arno Wagner wrote in news:5k3dftF1u9c9U2@mid.individual.net 
> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage BigAl.NZ@gmail.com wrote:
> > Hi Guys,
> 
> > I have a rather old Western Digital 20Gig IDE HDD here. The user
> > states it started making a noise and of course the computer now wont
> > boot.
> 
> > I plugged the drive into my PC, and it does not get recognised by the
> > Bios (so at the very least the logic board is dead?)
> 
> > It makes the following noise repeatedly:
> 
> > ftp://homepages.ihug.co.nz/public_html/harddrive.wav
> 
> No anon-login here it seems....
> 
> > Is this what they call stitchon or is it something else?

> If it makes a noise, it is not stiction.

Babblebot, clueless as always.

If the drive grunts 3 or more times at say a 2 seconds interval at 
spin-up time it is stiction. May be accompanied by a click releasing 
the head clamps first.

> 
> > Anyone able to shed some light?
> 
> Likely a case for professional data recovery if the data is
> important and the user was unprofessional enough to
> not have a backup. Trash bin otherwise.
> 
> Arno