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Article #111Re: Advice on Buying a PC - 1) Refurbished ? 2) Small Retail Outfit?
From: vischa
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 00:00
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 00:00
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John Rembetski wrote:
>
> I wanted to solicit advice on buying a PC. I am thinking about a Pentium
> >=90 Mhz; 16 MB Ram; >= 1.6 GB IDE; 4X CD ROM; 28.8 Modem; >= 15" SVGA.
>
> I have seen some good deals at:
>
> 1) Dell Factory Outlet for "refurbished" PCs
>
> 2) Several small retail/assembly hacker-type shops in the Austin area
>
> From what I can see, I could save anywhere from 20 - 35% off of buying
> from the big franchise superstores and/or mailorder. Do people have
You can't possibly tell how much you're saving, if anything, by
comparing "system" prices. A computer system is composed of a number of
discrete parts, the most important being these:
a)The motherboard
b)The hard disk
c)The video card
d)The monitor, if sold with a monitor
e)the amount and type of memory
f) the amount and type of secondary (L2) cache
and usually,
e)the CD-ROM drive
f)the sound card
g)the speakers
In a "system" the clone assembler can use a wide range of quality and
price in most of these components. I have found that local clone
dealers sometimes SEEM to offer lower prices than the top mail-order
places becasue the system price is lower - but the components making up
the system are usually not equal.
The biggest mail-order companies like Micron, Gateway, and Dell usually
use FAIRLY high quality components at least in their top-line systems -
they may not be the very best, but they're never BAD, because the top
models of each gets so much scrutiny in the magazines and in
"Cyberspace" (CIS,AOL, BBS's, The Internet) that, if they put out a real
dog, the whole world knows it very quickly, and these companies depend
on high-volume.
On the other hand, Joe's clone shop down the street, and also the brands
sold at CompUSA and MEI and Computer City etc DO NOT get much coverage
in the media, and you don't know what you're getting.
I would advise the first-time buyer to stick with the big mail-order
companies. My first choice would be Micron, unless you're in Austin, in
which case I might consider Dell (reportedly you can get better customer
service out of Dell if you can harrass them in person).
Today, the "speed" to buy is the Pentium 133. The 166 is having some
troubles, and is also overpriced. As for everything slower than the
P133, there isn't enough savings to justify buying the slower
processors, and you'll regret it later. {in fact, there is a general
rule in computer buying that the "most bang for the buck" is usually the
SECOND fastest model (that is, the second fastest that;s sold in high
volume). Today that's the 133 - in 6 months, it'll be the 166...and so
on..
> opinions on this??? The level of PC knowledge seems higher at the small
> shops compared to the big franchises as well....
>
> Thanks in advance!
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