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Article #18920Re: What's the deal? My chip says "SX-25"; Norton says "SX-33"
From: Kyle Hor
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 19:04
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 19:04
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In article <1icegqINN7vl@savoy.cc.williams.edu>, 93gke@williams.edu (oldwanda) writes: |> If this is true, then how can vendors push the 25Mhz chips to 33Mhz? |> Wouldn't they fail at the higher speeds since they were slow in |> testing? |> 1st there is a guard band. I.e. a 25MHz grade are usually tested to pass say 28MHz in all it's tests. Since I do not work for Intel, I do not know what guard band they set. 2nd, there are numerous test on different parts of the chips switching speed. Again, not knowing the 486 intimately, let's assume there are 100 such tests. Maybe 99 of them meet the 33MHz grade but one of them do not. These would drop the chip the 25MHz grade. What if that 1 test exercises a seldomly used instruction? The failure of running this chip at 33MHz would then be rare. 3rd, semiconductors are sensitive to temperature. The chip is probably tested at higher than normal operating temperature according to the specs. Some chips that just failed to make the 33MHz grade at high temperature could actually run well with good ventilation. Finally, if Intel has a huge order of 25MHz and have a huge stock of 33MHz, they would simply re-mark the chips as 25MHz and ship it. This is the most likely case as Intel seems to have controlled their process to be able to have high yield of 33MHz. My guess is that some vendors got wise to this and start pushing their 25MHz chips as 33MHz. They'd most likely burn in the computer using some software utilities for a couple of days. And if nothing breaks, it is sold as 33MHz. Whatever the case, it is ethically wrong for vendors to push 25MHz as 33MHz without the knowledge of their customers. ............................................................................ . Kyle Hor . / / _ . Email khor@bnr.ca . . Bell-Northern Research Ltd. . /__\ / / /_\ . Phone (613) 763-2488 . . Ottawa, Ontario, Canada . / \ \/ / \__ . ESN 393-2488 . ....................................__/..................................... ................ standard disclaimer, 2 cents opinion .................... ............. searching forever, for the perfect solution ................
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!wupost!cs.utexas.edu!torn!nott!bnrgate!bmers95!bnr.ca!khor From: khor@bnr.ca (Kyle Hor) Subject: Re: What's the deal? My chip says "SX-25"; Norton says "SX-33" Message-ID: <1993Jan5.190434.12413@bmers95.bnr.ca> Sender: usenet@bmers95.bnr.ca Reply-To: khor@bnr.ca Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd. References: <1ht90eINNei0@hpscit.sc.hp.com> <C0Cos2.2Fw@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> <1993Jan5.152504.9786@bmers95.bnr.ca> <1icegqINN7vl@savoy.cc.williams.edu> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 19:04:34 GMT Lines: 40