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Article #19411Re: Run a 486/33MHz CPU at 40 or 50MHz?
From: Abdullah Faruque,334CH,3752,2654...
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 17:29
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 17:29
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From article <1993Jan8.100550.9995@ac.dal.ca>, by francis@ac.dal.ca: > I have a 486DX/33MHz system, and I have been told by the manufacturer that > the motherboard is upgradeable to 50MHz by plugging in a new crystal and CPU. > > Question: Is it possible to plug in (say) a 40MHz or even a 50MHz crystal > into the board *without* replacing the old (33MHz) CPU? > If so, is there a performance improvement or will the 486DX 33MHz chip just > burn itself out, ie, has it been internally hardwired for the specified clock > frequency of 33MHz? I would like to hear from anyone who has attempted this > (with/without success). > > Francis > I am running a 486DX-33Mhz at 40Mhz without any problem. I put an extra fan and heatsink to cool down the CPU and now the CPU is running at a much lower temp that it used to run at 33Mhz (without any extra cooling). So, probably the long term effect due to the extra heat generated by over running it is near zero. Actually it may even be better, because it is running much cooler (with a fan and heatsink) than the max operating temp specified by the manufacturer. Normally, the manufacturer specifies the max operating temp of a CPU (or in general any semiconductor device) under certain operating conditions. If you increase the operating frequency then you must also provide necessary cooling to keep it under the max rated temp. Now the question is that how far you can increase the speed. There is no rule here, it may run at only 1% or as high as 30% above the rated speed. There are design limitations beyond which it will not work at all, even if extra cooling is provided. You have to do the experiment and find out the max possible speed that can be obtained without any soft error for a particular CPU. I found that a 486DX-25 can run at 33Mhz and a 486DX-33 can run at 40Mhz without any problem. But again that may not be true for all 486DX25/33 chips available. So, far I did not encounter any problem running DOS 5.0, Win 3.1, OS/2 2.0 and many other diagnostic and application softwares. I even pushed a 486DX-33 to 50Mhz just to see what happen. I was surprised that the system booted up and most DOS based programs run (even Checkit passed all CPU tests), but Win 3.1 and OS/2 2.0 did not run at all when pushed to 50Mhz. You have to consider the following things when pushing a CPU. 1. You must provide extra cooling, to make sure that it is running at a temp below max operating temp. 2. The motherboard should be rated at or above the intended speed. Otherwise you are looking for troubles. If you push the whole motherboard (which is not rated at the intended speed), then it may or may not work. That depends on who good the motherboard components are and if they can run at the increased speed. 3. Check extensively with different OS, diagnostic and application softwares before you settle down at the intended speed. 4. The main memory and external cache (if any) must meet the speed requirement necessary to run without putting any additional wait state. If you have to put additional additional wait state, then you will loose some performance and pushing the CPU may not even justify in such case. 5. If you do not feel confident enough to do the experiment, then it is not for you. Not recommend, if you do not even know what a crystal OSC is and how to locate/replace it. Please do not flame! I saw this topic several times, so I just describe my experience here, which may or may not work in your case. -Faruque Email: faruque@sun.soe.clarkson.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!clarkson!news From: faruque@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Abdullah Faruque,334CH,3752,2654247) Subject: Re: Run a 486/33MHz CPU at 40 or 50MHz? Message-ID: <1993Jan8.172942.7869@news.clarkson.edu> Sender: news@news.clarkson.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: sun.soe.clarkson.edu Organization: Clarkson University References: <1993Jan8.100550.9995@ac.dal.ca> Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:29:42 GMT Lines: 70