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Article #20232Re: local bus hard disk
From: Thomas D. Barrett
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:06
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:06
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In article <1993Jan25.192638.1458@julian.uwo.ca> wlsmith@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Wayne Smith) writes: > >Are current IDE drives able to handle local bus speeds? > Nope... and you obviously found that out. The drives are limited by the interface chip and until recently they only needed to handle the 8MHz bus timing. Those interface chips have to time slice the 8-bit data buffer SRAM (on the drive) or the n-bit cache RAM (on the drive) between the serializer logic for the drive data and the 8-bit (XT) or 16-bit (AT and Local-bus) IO port. Some drives can handle very fast transfers, but the majority are relatively slow. There is a move on, initiated by Tandon and other companies, to have the ATA standard changed to include the buffer access speed. It is already in there for some timing, but not for processor IO time on the local bus. Until then, the BIOS folks have to hardcode drive tables to program the local-bus IDE interfaces for optimum performance. The fastest drives that I've seen are from Seagate (Yes, Seagate... I wouldn't have believed it myself and it took a damned long time before I was convenience that they were any good... But, they are!), Conner, and WD. I think that the Seagate ones were further along, but the WD and Conner seemed to have fairly good access times, too. These drives, without any cache, on the local bus are as fast or faster than cached drives. Furthermore, the potential for the local bus interface is such that for a single head/platter the bottleneck is just getting the data off of the platter. -- |Tom Barrett (TDBear), Sr. Engineer|tom.barrett@amd.com|v:512-462-6856 | |AMD PCD MS-520 | 5900 E. Ben White|Austin, TX 78741 |f:512-462-5155 | |"No is yes, And we're all free" ---Tracy Chapman, "Why?" | |My views are my own and may not be the same as the company of origin |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!ferkel.ucsb.edu!taco!gatech!rpi!usenet.coe.montana.edu!decwrl!amdcad!dvorak.amd.com!tdbear From: tdbear@dvorak.amd.com (Thomas D. Barrett) Subject: Re: local bus hard disk Message-ID: <1993Jan25.230644.28358@dvorak.amd.com> Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas References: <1993Jan25.192638.1458@julian.uwo.ca> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 23:06:44 GMT Lines: 35