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Article #10787Lying BIOS ROM ??!! (Was: 1.2 Mb 3.5 Drive)
From: Richard Warren Harris
Date: Sat, 01 Jun 1991 22:39
Date: Sat, 01 Jun 1991 22:39
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I want to ammend what I wrote a few days ago....
> I have a 3.5 inch high density drive that thinks it formats out to 1.2
> Mb instead of 1.44. Funny thing is, these disks can be read and
> written to by other PCs with HD drives (as a 1.2 Mb disk), but my
> drive will not read anything except what it formats itself.
> Inconvenient.
>
> I'm running a 286 AT clone which already has a 5.25 inch 1.2 Mb drive,
> and DOS 3.3. The 5.25 is the a: drive, and this confused 3.5 is the
> b:. I ran the setup utility without any problems when I hooked up the
> drive, so theoretically at least the machine knows that it's a 1.44 Mb
> drive. Most of the hardware on this thing is from '87 or so. Most of
> the software is recent, however.
Correction: Most of the hardware is from '85 or '86. The ROM BIOS is
dated Nov, 1986.
> I called the "excellent trained technical staff" of the company I
> bought the drive from, and the guy I talked to said that "1.2 is
> pretty close to 1.44" and the reason I couldn't read any other disks
> in was because they were *all* bad. When I asked him if that didn't
> seem like an unlikely explanation he replied "I've seen it happen."
>
> Right.
>
> I'm no PC hardware expert (I got this thing used about 6 weeks ago),
> but I have some theories:
>
> 1. The DOS I got with the machine is not *really* 3.3. It says it's
> 3.3, but when I try to format a disk as 720K....
>
> C>format b: /n:9 /t:80
>
> Insert new disk in {blah, blah blah...}
>
> <enter>
>
> Parameters not supported.
>
> I don't know what this means. Is this a problem with the drive,
> DOS, or the disk?
This is the same DOS that is running without incedent on a PS/2. I am
basically ruling out this possibility, or at least lowering it's
probability. I'll be trying another DOS in a day or two.
> 2. The CMOS isn't really configured, it just thinks that it is. I
> don't know how it works or anything like that, so excuse my ignorance
> if this is totally off-base. I have a setup utility, but how do I
> know that the data stored is the same that the setup utility thinks?.
> Maybe the utility gives me the option of making a disk 360K, 1.2 Mb,
> 720K, or 1.44Mb, but the computer itself is totally clueless about
> what a 1.44 drive is, and so treats it like a 1.2 Mb drive (???????)
The ROM BIOS, as I said, is dated 1986. It says it supports 1.44 Mb
drives. I still don't believe it. Does anybody know what kind of
BIOS a FOUNTAIN 286 clone uses?
> 3. The controller card for the drives can't handle a 1.44 Mb drive.
Tried out a new controller. No different. Still formats to 1.2 Mb.
Boy did I scream....
> Any clue as to what's happening would be greatly appreciated. If you
> could, please cc a copy to my account.
So far, through independant testing, we have eliminated:
1. The Disks
2. The Drive
3. The Controller Card
The only thing left, as far as I know, is:
4. The ROM BIOS.
Which, again, gives a 1.44 Mb drive as an option when you set up the
machine. Could it be that my '86 BIOS is only joking about knowing
what a 1.44 Mb floppy is??!! ^^^^^^
Thanks,
- Rick (rh0i@andrew.cmu.edu <<or>> cuddles@cs.cmu.edu)
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