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Re: Gateway 2000 Drops Prices Again!

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From: David Sigeti
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 1990 23:35
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In article <Dec.12.07.32.31.1990.20745@remus.rutgers.edu> 
clong@remus.rutgers.edu (Captain Trott) writes:

   [Describing the latest prices on a 486 system from Gateway 2000] 

   25 MHz 486
   8 Meg RAM
   64K RAM cache
   Weitek socket
   3.5 & 5.25 floppies
   Windows 3.0 & MS mouse
   1024 SVGA board & monitor
   Fujitsu keyboard
   200 MB hard drive
   MS-DOS 3.3 or 4.01
   Toll free technical support.
   1 year on site service.

   $3995! <- NOT a typo.

Frankly, this price is so low -- and so far below prices for similar
systems from other vendors of equivalent reputation -- that I can't
help wondering if there isn't something wrong with the system.  I have
tried calling Gateway several times and have been unable to get
through so I am posting some questions about the system to the net.

Does anyone know anything more about the motherboard in this system
(manufacturer, BIOS, etc.)?  In particular, does it support the 486
burst mode (see below)?  Also, does anyone know about the caching
algorithm and how well, or poorly, it works with the internal cache
and possible burst mode operation?

The questions of burst mode support and interaction between internal
and external caches seem to me to be worth some discussion.  I would
be very interested in any information that anyone has on these issues
w.r.t. *any* motherboard or system out there.

[For those who wonder what I am talking about, the burst mode is a
fast way of filling a (128-bit) line in the 486's internal cache.
Normally, a memory read requires two clock cycles.  When the 486 is
filling a cache line, however, it can accept successive (32-bit) reads
in a single clock cycle each, if the surrounding circuitry supports
it.  Thus, filling a cache line can be accomplished in five clock
cycles (one to assert the starting address plus one for each 32-bit
read) rather than eight clock cycles (two for each 32-bit read).]

P. S.  I accidently posted an abbreviated version of this note about a
       half hour before posting this one.  I have cancelled it but
       want to offer my apologies if it is cluttering up anyone's
       version of this newsgroup.
--
David Sigeti    david@star2.cm.utexas.edu    cmhl265@hermes.chpc.utexas.edu
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