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Article #6070Re: 486 vs. 386
From: Joe Discar
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:28
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:28
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In article <1992Nov9.200839.27999@exu.ericsson.se> exuhag@exu.ericsson.se writes: >Derek Schott writes: >> >>After watching the market trend, I have the funniest feeling that >>everything has about hit rock bottom. A lot of people keep saying >>that the introduction of the i586 is going to severely cut the >>prices of both the 386 and 486 machines. Although it might drop >>the prices at first, I don't see why it is going to cut them so >>much. > >Not to mention that very few people actually need a 586 (aka Pentium). >How many people--excepting ray-tracing fanatics and people who do >serious number crunching--have had any speed problems with a 33 MHz >486? For the mass-market, the Pentium is a solution waiting for >a problem (like CD-I). I can't see people scrambling to buy them, >unless they are one of the rising number of buzzword addicts. > >-- >James Hague >exuhag@exu.ericsson.se I have a prediction about what the i586 will do to the PC market. You see, I am an avid upgrader--having gone through ALL iterations of the 80x86, from 8088 to 486-66DX-2. Yes, there has been an increase in *speed*... but there is more to what a new CPU does to the industry. Consider a three-tine fork: Speed, Software, and Interfaces. When the 8088 was king, the XT bus was popular. The 80286 didn't "kill" 8088 software (real-mode software was untouched)... but it introduced the 16-bit bus. The 80386 began to kill the 8088 software world. Windows 3.1 is nailing down the coffin. It has also, but not quite, killed the XT Bus--and made "16 bit" cards the defacto standard (if anything, just so that interrupt lines could be doubled). Speed-wise, the 486 is king--70 times faster than the 8088. What hasn't changed? The ISA bus is still predominant. But the 486 will not change it. Why? Because until recently, nobody really *notices* that there is a problem with the ISA bus. But the 486 can access 4 Gigs of memory and supports virtual memory (like the 386). But NOW, memory is cheaper--32 megs of RAM in a PC is not unheard of these days. So what's the problem? The ISA bus only addresses 24 bits--or roughly 16 megabytes. If memory-mapped I/O is needed (such as in a 24 bit NTSC video digitizer), it can only map the I/O at under 16 megs (this can also affect some software when virtualizing RAM through a hard disk controller). In effect: it reincarnates the infamous 640K barrier at 16 megabytes! The 586 is a new architecture, and I predict that it will introduce or at least mandate a 32 bit (or 64 bit) bus. This will, in essence, "kill" the 386/486 as it exists now (until motherboards are made for a wider bus). All of the previous is my humble opinion. But I have been beating my head against the 16 meg barrier for almost two months now. Change will happen. By any means necessary. -> joe <-
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!ukma!netsys!agate!dog.ee.lbl.gov!news!manta!discar From: discar@nosc.mil (Joe Discar) Subject: Re: 486 vs. 386 Message-ID: <1992Nov10.212830.29724@nosc.mil> Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego References: <BxFpHv.8zB@news.orst.edu> <1992Nov9.200839.27999@exu.ericsson.se> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:28:30 GMT Lines: 67