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Article #637Re: 486/50's vs Sun 2's
From: Ice
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1992 18:35
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1992 18:35
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Here's something that should clear up this debate once and for all... I used to think PC magazine was the most reliable. But these days, when you are older and more wary, you can still find some soft spots. ========================== Subject: Why workstations are better than PC's. Status: RO I offer the following possibly incorrect justifications for buying a workstation over a PC. (I assume that you're already a convert to the UNIX cause.) The simple answer is the integration of UNIX and hardware. A workstation is built to run UNIX, a PC isn't. The workstation comes with UNIX. The PC doesn't, any UNIX you run is grafted on top. Now the specifics. All of the below is pointless unless you 1) want to run UNIX 2) want to run Xwindows 1) Hardware performance A 25MHz 486 and a 25MHz Sparc machine are roughly the same performance when running CPU-bound jobs. So what. The most important aspect of any computer from the user's viewpoint isn't its specmark but its ability to respond rapidly to user input. Once you saddle yourself with X-windows, it takes a lot of I/O to get any kind of decent response. A 486ISA PC has a maximum bus speed to the graphics card in the 10Mb/s range. A SparcStation has a maximum bus speed to the graphics card in the 80Mb/s range. (Typical rates are about 1/3 of this. But the ratio stays the same.) Note that all the I/O is driven through this bus. 2) Available Hardware When you decide that you want to stuff those fast bus slots with something extra, there isn't as much choice as there would be for ISA BUS systems. Once again, so what. What there is, if you can afford it, represents serious application acceleration capabilities. For example, a floating point accelerator for a 486isa might entail a Weitek chip. SparcStations, not noted for stunning floating point performance, already have Weitek floating point chips builtin. Floating point accelerators tend to offer well more than a 100MFLOPS. (At least the new ones.) 3) Graphics. UNIX workstations aren't called graphics workstations for nothing. The smallest display resolution is 1152*900. After you've used a big screen, you'll never be able to go back to 640*480. Graphics screens can have significantly higher resolution, and tend to include dedicated accelerators that leave 34010 TIGA boards or XGA in the dust. (Even the cheap ones are about as fast as a 34020TIGA board.) (The really fast graphics cards are amazing.) Now, some simple reasons why I chose a Sun machine. 1) Cheapest RISC workstation when I bought it. 2) Cheapest machine with expansion slots. (Don't buy a slotless machine) 3) The most compatible with existing netsource. If your netsource doesn't run on a Sun, it won't run ever.(Not quite, but you get the idea) 4) Still some of the cheapest. 5) Complete version of UNIX included - compilers, debuggers, etc. (Not anymore I guess, Sun has started dismantling Solaris into pieces. But #3 combined with GNU will alleviate the pain here. (I hope.)) 6) xnews. NeWS is great, whatever you might have heard, NeWS is way better than X11 and better than DPS and runs extremely efficiently, even if it does need a 12Mb machine. 7) Most software for a workstation 8) Only workstation for which the marked volume is such that you can get some software at PC-like prices. (Check out the Indigo and then ask how much you'll pay for a page layout program. OUCH.) =================================================================
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!uunet.ca!xenitec!tdkcs.uucp!skynet!ice From: ice@skynet.uucp (Ice) Subject: Re: 486/50's vs Sun 2's Message-ID: <1992Aug07.183554.1297@skynet.uucp> Organization: Industrial Cybernetics References: <1992Jul20.024153.23311@news.Hawaii.Edu> <1992Jul27.054828.21618@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> <13831@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1992 18:35:54 GMT Lines: 71