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Fri, 07 Apr 1989 20:03
more than 16 levels of grey on a 5081 (megapel) using Xwindows
Author: wine
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 1989 20:03
Date: Fri, 07 Apr 1989 20:03
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We'd like to use our 5081 as a display device for images using Xwindows, but we can only get 16 levels of grey out of it. Is there any way to get 256 levels of grey (hardware, and/or software)? It's an awfully nice display, but we may have to get something else to do the job. --David Wine University of California at Los Angeles wine@cs.ucla.edu Computer Science Department (213) 825-6121 3531 Boelter Hall ...!(uunet,rutgers,ucbvax,randvax)!cs.ucla.edu!wine Los Angeles, CA 90024
Re: more than 16 levels of grey on a 5081 (megapel) using Xwindows
Author: Michael Richmond
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 1989 01:37
Date: Sat, 08 Apr 1989 01:37
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In article <22690@shemp.CS.UCLA.EDU> wine@CS.UCLA.EDU () writes:
>We'd like to use our 5081 as a display device for images using Xwindows,
>but we can only get 16 levels of grey out of it. Is there any way
>to get 256 levels of grey (hardware, and/or software)? It's an awfully
>nice display, but we may have to get something else to do the job.
>
>--David Wine
I have the same question here at the Astronomy Department at UC
Berkeley; my experience (brief as it is) with the 5081 is that it
is just a (very large) PGA, since the PGA also has a palette of
256 out of 4096 colors and just 16 gray levers. For the image processing
we do, we REALLY need 64 gray levels. Any suggestions for possible
displays?
Michael Richmond
-- Michael Richmond
"This is the heart that broke my finger." richmond@astroplasma.berkeley.edu
Megapel RPQ Available
Author: David L. Luner
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1989 15:58
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1989 15:58
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In article <22773@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> richmond@astroplasma.berkeley.edu.UUCP (Michael Richmond) writes: >In article <22690@shemp.CS.UCLA.EDU> wine@CS.UCLA.EDU () writes: >>We'd like to use our 5081 as a display device for images using Xwindows, >>but we can only get 16 levels of grey out of it. Is there any way >>to get 256 levels of grey (hardware, and/or software)? > > I have the same question here at the Astronomy Department at UC >Berkeley; There is an official IBM "RPQ" for enhancements to the standard IBM 5081 Display. If I remember correctly, it will meet you requirements (no promises). Please contact your local IBM marketing Representative. If that doesn't work, write back to me. -- David
Re: more than 16 levels of grey on a 5081 (megapel) using Xwindows
Author: Mikael C. Kj{rulff
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1989 12:48
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1989 12:48
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wine@maui.cs.ucla.edu writes:
> We'd like to use our 5081 as a display device for images using Xwindows,
> but we can only get 16 levels of grey out of it. Is there any way
> to get 256 levels of grey (hardware, and/or software)?
I had the same problem, but IBM-Denmark got hold of a new version of
the Color Palette chip for the Megapel Adapter cards. The new version
have a 3 x 8 bit entry (instead of 3 x 4) for each color to lookup,
giving 256 greylevels at your Megapel (and is faster?). As far as I
understand only X11 (AIX/RT X-Windows V2.1) running under AIX 2.2.1,
knows how to make use of all the 24 bits in the Color Palette. I got
hold of some test programs (from IBM) which left no doubt that the
upgrade worked. I haven't yet tried it with X11, while I am waiting
(and waiting (and waiting...)) for NFS, before I will upgrade to
AIX2.2.1 and AIX/RT X-Windows V2.1.
Below a short description of the hardware upgrade, as I made it:
Prev : Bt451KG100
RAMDAC
<serial no>
New : Bt458KG125
RAMDAC
<serial no>
Location: At the Megapel-controller card (the bottom one of the two
cards of the Megapel adapter) near the outlet for the RGB-signals,
grey, 3 cm square, (~ 1.25"). NOTE the writing at the chip is upside
down (if you have the RGB-outlet to your right).
Replace the chip and make sure the writing turns out upside down.
Note that it does *NOT* sit directly on the socket, there is a small
(~ 1 mm.) space of air between them.
Have fun, but be aware: the cards/chips are STATIC SENSITIVE DEVICES!
--
dearwolf@diku.dk Mikael C. Kjaerulff
Department of Computer Science, University of Copenhagen, Denmark
Re: more than 16 levels of grey on a 5081 (megapel) using Xwindows
Author: Nicholas J. Simicich
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1989 04:25
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 1989 04:25
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Yes, there is an RPQ for the Megapel controller that will give you 256 gray levels, or so I believe. Talk to your sales person. -- Nick Simicich --- uunet!bywater!scifi!njs --- njs@ibm.com (Internet)
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