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3 total messages Started by Peter Blemel Tue, 07 Apr 1992 00:30
X11R5 server/clients now working...
#38
Author: Peter Blemel
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1992 00:30
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Hi,

   Well, a combination of things has produced a working X11R5 binary
system on my RT. I never got the code from MIT (Xibm-athena) to work.
In fact, it doesn't even pass the compiler, so I'm guessing it has
never been tested on the RT under AIX. Even after I cleaned it up, it
crashed the server or didn't run at all. rune@sharkey.cc.umich.edu (Rune
Riisnaes) pointed me to a server binary that works great for me, but
crashes his machine. His OS is a bit further behind than mine in patches
and updates. That server is at brazos.is.rice.edu in pub/aix_rt (or
rt_aix, I don't recall).  The clients / fonts / etc. from export all
compile pretty much streight out of the box, with a few exceptions.
Together they make a full X11R5 system. Yippie!

The final directory sizes are (in blocks) :

19586 /usr/lib/X11
70640 /usr/bin/X11
2380 /usr/include/X11

To make X11R5 on the RT (AIX 2.2.1) you'll need about 120mb of free disk
space. My system is at update level 1773, if that helps but I don't know 
what the minimum needs to be. I'll send binaries to anyone who sends me
a tape, but if you must make R5 yourself send me mail and I'll try to
recant how I did it. It's not a very clean job. My system is a 6150/135
with 16mb of ram, tcpip, and AIX2.2.1 (1773).

brazos also has a set of X11R4 binaries, as well as the upgrades to the
AIX operating system. You need to use bffcreate and updatep to apply them.
Let me know if you lack the documentation to do the update, and I'll fax
or mail the appropriate pages. I'm assuming that since they're there, they
can be had and applied.

Peter Blemel
Management Sciences, Inc.
(505) 255 - 8611
Re: X11R5 server/clients now working...
#42
Author: John Iacoletti
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1992 15:20
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I didn't have any luck with Xibm-athena either.  brazos.is.rice.edu
appears to have the server and the fonts, but not the libraries or
clients.  Maybe the good people at Rice would be willing to share the
changes they had to make to build the server for RT AIX.  Apparently
the code needs a lot of tweaking to get past the RT compiler.

-- 
John Iacoletti                      Internet: johniac@hwperform.austin.ibm.com
IBM Advanced Workstations Div.    "If a frog had wings, he wouldn't hit his tail
Austin, TX                         on the ground.  Too hypothetical." - G. Bush
My opinions do not reflect the views of the IBM Corporation
Rice's AIX/RT X11R5 server/clients
#46
Author: Michael Francis Brantley
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 16:22
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> I didn't have any luck with Xibm-athena either.  brazos.is.rice.edu
> appears to have the server and the fonts, but not the libraries or
> clients.  Maybe the good people at Rice would be willing to share the
> changes they had to make to build the server for RT AIX.  Apparently
> the code needs a lot of tweaking to get past the RT compiler.

Hello all -

My apologies for not having spoken up until now on this subject, but as
the end of semester approaches and I worry about finding a job with my
newly-graduated fiancee I find that there's less time to read news ...

I am the one who compiled the X11R4/R5 distributions available from 
brazos.is.rice.edu.  Yes, it did take a significant amount of tweaking 
to get the code working - Most of the work involved getting the PEX code
revised to do things the non-ANSI way at the flip of a preprocessor macro.  
However, the really tough part of the port was in the server/ddx/ibm subtree.  
As such, I'll note that the changes required to get the server to run are
divided into two sections - the changes to the ibm subtree and the changes
to the rest of the mit code.  I have sent all of the changes made in the 
ibm subtree portion of the code to MIT and they have been folded into John 
Carr's X11R5 port available from demi.mit.edu.  I have not yet generated
a list of patches for the remainder of the distribution.

I've been hesitating to make the remainder of the changes available because
they are not finished yet.  It is true that I have the server working - we're
using it very successfully here at Rice - but I got the thing running in a
3-day hackfest that I'm not particularly proud of.  Your posts have renewed
my interest and I'll be trying to clean up the code as time permits.

So ... for those of you out there who want to use X11R5, feel free to use
the server as supplied in pub/aix_rt on brazos.is.rice.edu.  We have used 
it here to turn our army of RT's into X-terminals, using XDM to display
off of SPARC compute servers.  That is why I did not compile any of the 
clients - we just don't use them.  I would suggest this as the ideal 
configuration for any of you out there using RT's.  They make great X-servers, 
but a single RS/6000 320H or SPARCStation 2 will outperform an army of RT's 
supporting a complete user environment locally.  In addition, the 
configuration and system management costs of keeping an RT useful go to 
zero when they're used this way.

And for those of you out there who have to build X11R5, start with 
John Carr's X11R5 port available from demi.mit.edu.  The remainder of
changes necessary are straightforward, but very numerous.  If you want 
to use my hacked changes to the rest of the mit distribution, just send
me mail and I'll send you a drop of my latest efforts.  If you can wait,
I hope to get my final version completed and posted to comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt 
by May 15.

Again, I apologise for having been silent for so long, but I encourage all
of you to use the X11R5 server available on brazos.is.rice.edu.  If you find
problems with the server, please send me mail and we can work to find a
solution.

Michael Brantley
Office of Networking and Computing Systems
Rice University, Houston, Texas
(brantley@rice.edu)
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