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3 total messages Started by Neil McDougall Sun, 02 Jan 2000 00:00
Wanted: DOS/DirectSound wrapper-type thingy
#54
Author: Neil McDougall
Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 00:00
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Before I detail exactly what i'm looking for, I fell it's prudent to explain
*why* I want it, incase you tech heads have any other ideas as to how my
problem can be solved...if you don't want to read, just scroll down to the
line of Equals signs :-)


My computer, in its orgininal specification worked in perfect harmony (well,
as perfect as you're gonna get with a PC).  But earlier this year, it had a
massive breakdown; nearly everything had to be replaced, from the 3.5" disk
drive to the motherboard.

And that, my frends, is at the root of the problem.

My old motherboard got on fine with my SBLive! Value, through both DOS and
Windows.  Some programs didn't really like the SB16 emulation, but that was
okay.  The only DOS games I played were things like F1GP2 and my collection
of DOS Emulators.

But after the big fix-up session, things changed.  The shop that fixed it
(also where I originally purchased the PC) didn't stock the same motherboard
that was originally in the PC in the first  place, so they got one that was
as close as posible.  But the new MB had one critical difference...

...It came with an internal sound system.

The internal sound system (listed by Windows Device Manager as a CMI8330/C3D
Audio Adapter, listed 4 times under 'Other Devices') is preventing DOS
programs from detecting the SBLive's SB16 emulation, wether it be through
plain DOS or through a DOS box in windows.  Every single DOS program refuses
to detect the prescence of a soundcard at all, and there's nothing in the
BIOS to disable this rogue sound system.  Jumpers there may be, but finding
them is going to be difficult without a motherboard manual (see below)!

Now, due to the somewhat rushed nature of the repair, as well as the cascade
of failures (it was originally a HDD failure that sent it in for repairs,
but then everything else mysteriously died), and the added fact of my
employers pestering the shop, the shop didn't include a new motherboar
manual or driver CD.  I can't disable the CMI audio adapter, there's no way
to circumvent it, there's no way to change the way DOS programs behave, so
I'm trying to use as many Windows programs as possible (but GP2 sucks
without sound, and most Windows emulators are generally slower than their
DOS equivalents).


============================================================================
=======

MY REQUEST

I'm looking for a Windows program (or whatever) that'll take sound from a
program running in a DOS box and shunt the sound output to DirectSound,
letting me hear what's going on with my DOS programs.  Most of the DOS stuff
I have will barely stretch my CPU, so I should have more than enough CPU
power to spare with something like this beavering away in the background.

if you can help me, you can email me.

Thanks for listening.

NMD
Re: Wanted: DOS/DirectSound wrapper-type thingy
#52
Author: conan the barbiturate
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 00:00
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um is this by anychance a pcchips motherboard? and is the onboard sound card
a "soundpro"?  if it is (i seem to recall that chip on those boards with
that number but i could be wrong) get a program called ctbios i belive and
see who made it and go to the url it shows you and download anything you can
find on it. they should have a manual online. it sounds like theres a
massive irq conflict and its causeing windows to throw up on itself with irq
problems. turn off plug and play aware os and assign the resources in the
bios manually if you cant bypass it. (i'd seel the board if its a pcchips
board even if i had to sell a kidney to do so. pcchips suck IMHO
"Neil McDougall" <mad_dog_mcd@tdef.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:84qo5m$4mo$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Before I detail exactly what i'm looking for, I fell it's prudent to
explain
> *why* I want it, incase you tech heads have any other ideas as to how my
> problem can be solved...if you don't want to read, just scroll down to the
> line of Equals signs :-)
>
>
> My computer, in its orgininal specification worked in perfect harmony
(well,
> as perfect as you're gonna get with a PC).  But earlier this year, it had
a
> massive breakdown; nearly everything had to be replaced, from the 3.5"
disk
> drive to the motherboard.
>
> And that, my frends, is at the root of the problem.
>
> My old motherboard got on fine with my SBLive! Value, through both DOS and
> Windows.  Some programs didn't really like the SB16 emulation, but that
was
> okay.  The only DOS games I played were things like F1GP2 and my
collection
> of DOS Emulators.
>
> But after the big fix-up session, things changed.  The shop that fixed it
> (also where I originally purchased the PC) didn't stock the same
motherboard
> that was originally in the PC in the first  place, so they got one that
was
> as close as posible.  But the new MB had one critical difference...
>
> ...It came with an internal sound system.
>
> The internal sound system (listed by Windows Device Manager as a
CMI8330/C3D
> Audio Adapter, listed 4 times under 'Other Devices') is preventing DOS
> programs from detecting the SBLive's SB16 emulation, wether it be through
> plain DOS or through a DOS box in windows.  Every single DOS program
refuses
> to detect the prescence of a soundcard at all, and there's nothing in the
> BIOS to disable this rogue sound system.  Jumpers there may be, but
finding
> them is going to be difficult without a motherboard manual (see below)!
>
> Now, due to the somewhat rushed nature of the repair, as well as the
cascade
> of failures (it was originally a HDD failure that sent it in for repairs,
> but then everything else mysteriously died), and the added fact of my
> employers pestering the shop, the shop didn't include a new motherboar
> manual or driver CD.  I can't disable the CMI audio adapter, there's no
way
> to circumvent it, there's no way to change the way DOS programs behave, so
> I'm trying to use as many Windows programs as possible (but GP2 sucks
> without sound, and most Windows emulators are generally slower than their
> DOS equivalents).
>
>
>
============================================================================
> =======
>
> MY REQUEST
>
> I'm looking for a Windows program (or whatever) that'll take sound from a
> program running in a DOS box and shunt the sound output to DirectSound,
> letting me hear what's going on with my DOS programs.  Most of the DOS
stuff
> I have will barely stretch my CPU, so I should have more than enough CPU
> power to spare with something like this beavering away in the background.
>
> if you can help me, you can email me.
>
> Thanks for listening.
>
> NMD
>
>
>
>
Re: Wanted: DOS/DirectSound wrapper-type thingy
#53
Author: mark scorfield
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 00:00
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3979 bytes
try getting a bios update to disable the cmi8330 . i have a txproii motherboard
with this chip on board and it can be disabled in the bios

Neil McDougall wrote:

> Before I detail exactly what i'm looking for, I fell it's prudent to explain
> *why* I want it, incase you tech heads have any other ideas as to how my
> problem can be solved...if you don't want to read, just scroll down to the
> line of Equals signs :-)
>
> My computer, in its orgininal specification worked in perfect harmony (well,
> as perfect as you're gonna get with a PC).  But earlier this year, it had a
> massive breakdown; nearly everything had to be replaced, from the 3.5" disk
> drive to the motherboard.
>
> And that, my frends, is at the root of the problem.
>
> My old motherboard got on fine with my SBLive! Value, through both DOS and
> Windows.  Some programs didn't really like the SB16 emulation, but that was
> okay.  The only DOS games I played were things like F1GP2 and my collection
> of DOS Emulators.
>
> But after the big fix-up session, things changed.  The shop that fixed it
> (also where I originally purchased the PC) didn't stock the same motherboard
> that was originally in the PC in the first  place, so they got one that was
> as close as posible.  But the new MB had one critical difference...
>
> ...It came with an internal sound system.
>
> The internal sound system (listed by Windows Device Manager as a CMI8330/C3D
> Audio Adapter, listed 4 times under 'Other Devices') is preventing DOS
> programs from detecting the SBLive's SB16 emulation, wether it be through
> plain DOS or through a DOS box in windows.  Every single DOS program refuses
> to detect the prescence of a soundcard at all, and there's nothing in the
> BIOS to disable this rogue sound system.  Jumpers there may be, but finding
> them is going to be difficult without a motherboard manual (see below)!
>
> Now, due to the somewhat rushed nature of the repair, as well as the cascade
> of failures (it was originally a HDD failure that sent it in for repairs,
> but then everything else mysteriously died), and the added fact of my
> employers pestering the shop, the shop didn't include a new motherboar
> manual or driver CD.  I can't disable the CMI audio adapter, there's no way
> to circumvent it, there's no way to change the way DOS programs behave, so
> I'm trying to use as many Windows programs as possible (but GP2 sucks
> without sound, and most Windows emulators are generally slower than their
> DOS equivalents).
>
> ============================================================================
> =======
>
> MY REQUEST
>
> I'm looking for a Windows program (or whatever) that'll take sound from a
> program running in a DOS box and shunt the sound output to DirectSound,
> letting me hear what's going on with my DOS programs.  Most of the DOS stuff
> I have will barely stretch my CPU, so I should have more than enough CPU
> power to spare with something like this beavering away in the background.
>
> if you can help me, you can email me.
>
> Thanks for listening.
>
> NMD
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