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Re: Do SBLive and Audigy cards only have 128 GM/GS sounds?!!

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From: Aphelion
Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2003 22:22
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On 5 Apr 2003 13:52:30 -0800, docsavage20@yahoo.com (Doc) wrote:


My original beef with your post only had to do with your misconception
that somehow those who purchase "pro" cards are somehow getting
screwed because we believe some hype about audio quality and could do
just as well with a commercial card from Creative and not be able to
hear the difference.

I'm just saying you're either misinformed or don't know/can't hear the
difference youself.

The overall construction, noise rejection, quality of parts..etc..etc
between a Creative card and an RME (M-Audio, MOTU) card are worlds
apart.
 
>> Someone mentioned they can be bought on cheap on EBay...
>> Why do you think that is?
>
>I can offer a hypothesis. They had trouble installing them or had
>chronic problems after install, very likely due to Via chipset issues
>that have nothing to do with the card, but nobody knew to tell them
>this. They got frustrated and tossed the card and got what they could
>for it.

Or they actually wanted a true digital copy coming in from DAT or some
other digital source. The Live and Audigy resample all incoming
digital audio. The internal clock is locked to 48khz.
Don't take my word for it, run a few searches on Google.

Also, a good percentage of the complaints on this board are from those
using SBLive/Audigy.

>> Still, I think the SBLive series are good little cards, very
>> versatile, just don't try and compare them with a quality pro audio
>> card, there IS a difference.
>
>Would YOU be one of the ones willing to put a grand on the line over
>the Audigy? (Of course, it's easy to say yes when it's not a reality)

Well, it's a no brainer at least with the SBLive....

It's easy to tell the difference on my moderate system with Event
20/20Bas monitors and a Mackie mixer.

Why don't you borrow one of the better cards at under $500, install it
and see if you can hear the difference.

You would need to record the same source at the same rate and play
back each file on it's respective card, you will hear a difference.
Now whether that difference is worth it to you or not..... I can't
say. I make my living in music, to me it is definitely worth it.

I have to say, even my ancient TurtleBeach Fiji ISA card sounds better
than the SBLive, as for the RME I'm currently using... there's really
no comparison. 

btw, I'm not talking about soundfonts (although they go through the DA
converters as well.)

Just pure audio recording/playback.

Again, that said... I still have the SBLive and if I could squeeze it
in my current XP/RME system, I probably would as the soundfont support
comes in handy.


Ap
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