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Article #168Re: Do SBLive and Audigy cards only have 128 GM/GS sounds?!!
From: Aphelion
Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2003 22:22
Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2003 22:22
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On 5 Apr 2003 13:52:30 -0800, docsavage20@yahoo.com (Doc) wrote: My original beef with your post only had to do with your misconception that somehow those who purchase "pro" cards are somehow getting screwed because we believe some hype about audio quality and could do just as well with a commercial card from Creative and not be able to hear the difference. I'm just saying you're either misinformed or don't know/can't hear the difference youself. The overall construction, noise rejection, quality of parts..etc..etc between a Creative card and an RME (M-Audio, MOTU) card are worlds apart. >> Someone mentioned they can be bought on cheap on EBay... >> Why do you think that is? > >I can offer a hypothesis. They had trouble installing them or had >chronic problems after install, very likely due to Via chipset issues >that have nothing to do with the card, but nobody knew to tell them >this. They got frustrated and tossed the card and got what they could >for it. Or they actually wanted a true digital copy coming in from DAT or some other digital source. The Live and Audigy resample all incoming digital audio. The internal clock is locked to 48khz. Don't take my word for it, run a few searches on Google. Also, a good percentage of the complaints on this board are from those using SBLive/Audigy. >> Still, I think the SBLive series are good little cards, very >> versatile, just don't try and compare them with a quality pro audio >> card, there IS a difference. > >Would YOU be one of the ones willing to put a grand on the line over >the Audigy? (Of course, it's easy to say yes when it's not a reality) Well, it's a no brainer at least with the SBLive.... It's easy to tell the difference on my moderate system with Event 20/20Bas monitors and a Mackie mixer. Why don't you borrow one of the better cards at under $500, install it and see if you can hear the difference. You would need to record the same source at the same rate and play back each file on it's respective card, you will hear a difference. Now whether that difference is worth it to you or not..... I can't say. I make my living in music, to me it is definitely worth it. I have to say, even my ancient TurtleBeach Fiji ISA card sounds better than the SBLive, as for the RME I'm currently using... there's really no comparison. btw, I'm not talking about soundfonts (although they go through the DA converters as well.) Just pure audio recording/playback. Again, that said... I still have the SBLive and if I could squeeze it in my current XP/RME system, I probably would as the soundfont support comes in handy. Ap
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