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Re: Krooger the documented habitual liar .. more deception..

#214
From: Arny Krueger
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 10:37
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"S i g n a l . . . . ." <media@clara.net> wrote in message
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> "Arny Krueger" <arnyk@pop3free.com> wrote:
>
> >At this point the facts of the matter are well known. Dormer rants
> >and raves about errors in my tests, but in fact he hasn't exactly
> >duplicated my tests or even come close. He's used a different
version
> >of the card, different version of the drivers, and different test
> >conditions. Furthermore, the test conditions he's been using are
> >irrelevant to how most consumers  use the SBLive! card most often.
> >They play music sampled at 44 KHz and Mr. Dormer tests at 48 KHz.
By
> >doing this Dormer avoids the well-known weakness of the card
relating
> >to resampling.

> As I just pointed out elsewhere, my analogue tests were performed
at
> 44.1Khz.  It said so clearly in the screen grabs I provided, and on
> the text accompanying the hyperlinks to those screen grabs.

As usual Mr. Dormer you distort the facts to suit your purposes. The
analog screen grabs I saw were made with APS drivers and MCI drivers
that fit the description: "...different version f the card, different
version of the drivers..."

> See what I wrote :
>
> >>For example :
> >>
> >>87dB signal to noise ratio, analog output @ 44Khz
> >>http://home.clara.net/media/sblive/1KHZ-DA.gif
> >>97dB signal to noise ratio, digital output @ 48Khz
> >>http://home.clara.net/media/sblive/1KHZ-DO.gif
> >>
> >>Distortion and background noise are very low, and the dynamic
range is
> >>excellent see:
> >>
> >>93dB dynamic range, analog output @ 44Khz
> >>http://home.clara.net/media/sblive/DYN-DA.gif

> How much clearer could it be?

Mr. Dormer where do those pictures stipulate that you used the same
version of the card, and same version of the drivers that I did?

Answer: They don't

Isn't it true that you also used a different version of the analysis
software as well?

> >Dormer likes to tell lies about me. Every time I catch him he
denies it.

> That is because I don't lie.

I just caught you again!

>  And every time I have denied one of your  phony accusations, you
have failed to substantiate it.

I just caught you again!

>Liar.

I just caught you again!
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