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Re: Krooger the documented habitual liar .. more deception..

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From: S i g n a l . . . . .
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 22:48
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"Arny Krueger" <arnyk@pop3free.com> wrote:

>I've pointed the fact that stuff can change at any time on every page
>of my www.pcavtech.com web site. It's a fact of life. My test results
>for the SBLive! have been confirmed by several others over the years.

Please cite several references :-




>At this point the facts of the matter are well known. Dormer rants
>and raves about errors in my tests, but in fact he hasn't exactly
>duplicated my tests or even come close.

That's right.. my test results exceeded yours by a long shot.

>He's used a different version
>of the card, different version of the drivers, and different test
>conditions.

This would carry some weight if you hadn't yourself made a seemingly
endless stream of generalized pronouncements about "the live" or the
eg "4830" soundcard.. as if they exist only in single permutations.
You seldom mention the fact that your results may be misleading to the
untrained observer (who must surely constitute the large majority of
visitors to your site) because your tests may not represent current
drivers and hardware.  Nor do you make clear the possible
discrepensies that people may experience between your results and
their own experience.

Now that we (Trevor and myself) have identified a major difference in
"4830" audio quality.. how have you encorporated this important
information into your "4830" (sic) test page?

When are you going to correct the mistaken rumour you have spread that
the digital section of the live is inevitably worse than the analogue?

>Furthermore, the test conditions he's been using are
>irrelevant to how most consumers  use the SBLive! card most often.
>They play music sampled at 44 KHz and Mr. Dormer tests at 48 KHz.

False.  My analogue results were performed at 44.1Khz.  I made this
quite clear when I posted the references, and the sample rate is
clearly indicated in the plots.

This is typical of the sort of error Krueger is prone to making.

>With all those differences in his tests, he gets
>different results. Only someone as blinded by hatred as Mr. Dormer
>could manage to feign surprise or dismay  over differences that have
>such an obvious cause.

What is this "obvious cause", Krueger?  Be specific.

>Dormer likes to tell lies about me.

<SNIP>

Yet another baseless accusation.  Krueger likes to say things like
this, without ever producing any material evidence.  I have asked him
to produce evidence for at least one lie many times now.. but he seems
incapable of doing so.  On the other hand, he has been documented
lying many times on rec.audio.opinion.  He once even declared "I am a
liar".


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