Article View: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.tech
Article #245Re: Well, I went camping for three days and I see the whole Live! thing raged on while I was gone
From: Trevor
Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 08:50
Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 08:50
45 lines
3435 bytes
3435 bytes
"Paul D." <media@clara.net> wrote in message news:st0ogtg0h6niro4j7qqn8su7o36gtdpm87@4ax.com... > "Arny Krueger" <arnyk@pop3free.com> wrote: > SpectraLab showed a S/N ratio of over 97 dB with a 1Khz tone (not > 96.3). You can see from the screengrab that it was taken in real > time, set to 16 bit with a 48Khz sample rate, used an appropriately > high resolution FFT window and Blackman analysis. > > You explain the error. SpectraLab is very good software, but it is not a certified, traceable, laboratory grade measurement system. And ANY measurement system has a degree of uncertainty. You just need to establish what it is. I can assure you both it is more than 1 dB. > There's more! SpectraLab indicates a S/N ratio of 100 dB with a 20Hz > tone. See here : > > http://home.clara.net/media/sblive/20HZ-DO.gif > > You explain the error. The FFT window is too large for the signal, so more power is deemed signal, and less as noise. (yes I know that is it's maximum) SpectraLab also mesures peak noise not RMS, not sure if any weighting is used. I would not be unhappy with those results though :-) > >> For the record I think your tests are a damn sight better than > >nothing, > > I agree with this.. my basic problem with the site is that Kruger > doesn't keep it up to date and therefore these sorts of issues arise. > The same thing happened with my Echo Gina. It *still* says "reference > card" on the test page which is incorrect, and the results are poorer > than I obtain with the card. The same thing with my AWE64 Gold. And > this is supposed to be a reference site? In Arny's defence, he isn't being paid to do this, so I think the disclaimers apply. If you don't like it ... I think he admits the card may be capable of better performance, so can we all call a truce? Trevor.
Technical Details
Message-ID:
<3b0ccb0b$0$25502$7f31c96c@news01.syd.optusnet.com.au>Path:
arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!paloalto-snf1.gtei.net!crtntx1-snh1.gtei.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!news1.optus.net.au!optus!news1.mpx.com.au.MISMATCH!news01.syd.optusnet.com.au!nnrp01.syd.optusnet.com.au!not-for-mailReferences:
<u31jgt81s0nejd9plbj2tt5u0tkou8uoro@4ax.com> <vsejgtkqsp0ncpus6g9gn11borsmkdcfub@4ax.com> <kCsO6.3393$7K.519145501@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com> <np4lgt0mamnvvf0ec4tl4iad29tjsj8an9@4ax.com> <96CO6.3473$EW5.538921099@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com> <3b0b6499$0$25475$7f31c96c@news01.syd.optusnet.com.au> <WKLO6.2$4N2.462963@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com> <st0ogtg0h6niro4j7qqn8su7o36gtdpm87@4ax.com>Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1021cd,df0cf9924d05b6c0 X-Google-Attributes: gid1021cd,public X-Google-Thread: 10e134,bd15b6ed5b2cf X-Google-Attributes: gid10e134,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-05-24 01:50:03 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!paloalto-snf1.gtei.net!crtntx1-snh1.gtei.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!news1.optus.net.au!optus!news1.mpx.com.au.MISMATCH!news01.syd.optusnet.com.au!nnrp01.syd.optusnet.com.au!not-for-mail Reply-To: "Trevor" <trevor7@optusnet.com.au> From: "Trevor" <trevor@home> Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard.tech,creative.products.sound_blaster.live References: <u31jgt81s0nejd9plbj2tt5u0tkou8uoro@4ax.com> <vsejgtkqsp0ncpus6g9gn11borsmkdcfub@4ax.com> <kCsO6.3393$7K.519145501@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com> <np4lgt0mamnvvf0ec4tl4iad29tjsj8an9@4ax.com> <96CO6.3473$EW5.538921099@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com> <3b0b6499$0$25475$7f31c96c@news01.syd.optusnet.com.au> <WKLO6.2$4N2.462963@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com> <st0ogtg0h6niro4j7qqn8su7o36gtdpm87@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Well, I went camping for three days and I see the whole Live! thing raged on while I was gone Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 18:50:39 +1000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Lines: 48 Message-ID: <3b0ccb0b$0$25502$7f31c96c@news01.syd.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.142.95.97 X-Trace: 990694156 news01.syd.optusnet.com.au 25502 198.142.95.97