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Re: Well, I went camping for three days and I see the whole Live! thing raged on while I was gone

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From: Trevor
Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 07:21
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"Arny Krueger" <arnyk@pop3free.com> wrote in message
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> As far as your claim to have measured 97 dB SNR in a 16 bit
> environment, that appears to be better than that which is
> theoretically possible. Digital I/O can help, but not quite that
> much!

Hey Arny, I wouldn't complain about 96.3 dB being rounded to 97 dB instead
of 96. It's SpectraLabs output after all, and none of YOUR measurements seem
to be calibrated or traceable to any National standard from what I can see?

> The cards I tested did what I say they did, pure and simple. Others
> have confirmed my results. I've confirmed my own results with other
> samples of the same model card.

This I have no argument with, I am sure such a cheap card does not have mega
strict quality control. Would you expect it to?

> Mr. Dormer, if you've got a new hotshot card that's got analog I/O
> that's 4 dB better, that's not totally unbelievable. Good for you! I
> guess its the luck of the draw. But measuring 97 dB in a 16 bit
> environment takes some doing... especially if your test signal is
> properly dithered. Theoretical max is 96 dB unweighted, isn't it?

For the record I think your tests are a damn sight better than nothing,
which is pretty much what else is available. And I do read them and
appreciate having some data on cards that I have no access to. Do you really
need to make such ridiculous statements though? 1 dB measurement error is a
hanging offence? 1 dB roll off in a card at 18 kHz makes it useless? 83 dB
S/N ratio is inadequate for recording vinyl or cassette?

Give it a rest. You're destroying your own credibility.

Trevor.
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