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Re: Well, I went camping for three days and I see the whole Live! thing raged on while I was gone

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From: Roj
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 23:47
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On Tue, 22 May 2001 22:36:21 +0100, Paul D. <media@clara.net> wrote:

>Roj <rojramsey@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>Couldn't it be that Via chipsets are not 100% Intel compatible..?
>>
>>Why would they not be?  Only CL cards have problems with them.  I test
>>a fair bit of hardware and only CL has issues.
>
>Via can apparantly cause problems with your beloved Santa Cruz also.
>Read #15 here :
>
>http://www.tech-report.com/news_reply.x/2238

A couple of point;

First off the SC manual recommends that the card be given its own IRQ.
If you knew anything about system configuration, you would know that
giving the soundcard its own IRQ (**particularly** the Live!) is
standard practice for a knowledgeable system builder.

Secondly, some motherboard vendors (ABit prominent among them) do not
implement ACPI in BIOS correctly.  This leads to all manner of nasty
stuff like the circumstances listed in that post which magically **go
away** in many cases if ACPI is disabled or not installed (in the case
of Win2K)

Thirdly, if a device is not PCI 2.1 compliant (the Live! is not and
the Santa Cruz is), one can experience problems with Via chipsets.

Fourthly, the Highpoint controller that the ABit uses is known to be
one of the most incompatible RAID controllers on the market which is
why most other vendors implemented Promise's variety.  That alone can
cause problems for the machine.

Basically, this boy could benefit from an awful lot of research that
VH has long since done - he's looking at the right symptoms but not
the right root cause.

I have a 686B Southbridge.  I have a Santa Cruz.  I have transferred
several GIGABYTES over my home network between machines at full bore
continuously with absolutely **NO** ill effects.  But then again, I
also have a busmastering NIC - a 3COM 3C905-TX-M.  Choose your
hardware correctly and things magically work.

>>It's the responsibility of the third party board manufacturer to make
>>sure their cards are compatible with the leading chipset manufacturer
>>and not the other way around - unless you're CL of course.
>
>Via have acknowledged it's THEIR bug.
>http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/3/18267.html

Old news - they have since pinned the blame where it belongs:

Squarely on CL.

Remember those cute little engineering flaws CL loves to deny?

Roj
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Subject: Re: Well, I went camping for three days and I see the whole Live! thing raged on while I was gone
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