🚀 go-pugleaf

Yuck!  I do have 3 PCI slots, but the third shares back plate with firs of 3
ISA, so I can only use one or the other.  I think you must be right that
this cheapo mobo is the prob.  It is possible to assign IRQs to PCI slots,
but whenever I've tried the SBLive manages to ignore it and take whatever it
wants anyway.  Well, I'll fiddle around a bit with taking out and
re-installing cards and get back to ya in a few days maybe.  Thanks again
for the help!

--
Tom

www.amotherswork.com for custom fleece baby buntings, nursery decorations,
bridal & First Communion veils
"Doc" <pc-doc@mediaone.net> wrote in message
news:3A5BD48D.824F8967@mediaone.net...
> Okay, didn't understand that you only have (1) PCI and
> (2) ISA to place(?)...
> Okay, first, go into the BIOS and set the BIOS to
> defaults... use the default F7 or F (whatever the heck
> it is at the bottom of the screen...) Make sure that
> you us NO to PNP OS installed... (you can play with it
> later...)
> Take out ALL cards EXCEPT the Video card... all cards.
> Boot... check out in Win98 ALL your FREE IRQs and right
> them down.. should be 10, 11, maybe 9, 5... you could
> disable COM1/3 IRQ4 IF YOU are using a PS2 mouse??
>
> Okay, boot that way... copy down the info...
>  ***OH, delete ALL the SBLIve drivers... manually remove
> them from the Registry.. there is a 'manual remove' list
> on Creative's site...
>
> Okay, now that you booted, shut down, place the SBLive
> in PCI3... I don't know if you can ASSIGN IRQs on that
> motherboard in the BIOS (??)... would be nice.. can you?
> If so, see if you can give IRQ five to that slot.. if not,
> no sweat.. boot, cancel the 'windows has found new hardware'
> and after opening, REINSTALL SBLive Ware 3.0 !!!
>
> What is working, what is not??
> If you get that going okay... then see if you can
> put the 'most' important next card (modem??) into the
> system.. ISA slot 3...?? Try it out... so forth.
>
> I'd say the BIOS and / or Mobo is not up to par and might
> be giving you these headaches... good luck... let us know.
>
> Tom wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, the first PCI slot is empty now, though I have tied the SBLive in
it
> > and it seems to work fine, as it does in slot 3.  The SBLive however
DOES
> > NOT work in PCI 2.  It is recognized by BIOS during boot, but once
Windows
> > loads it is nothing but constant white noise form the speakers.  It has
> > never worked in any combination in PCI 2. USR modem is in ISA slot 3, it
is
> > not PCI, and 3Com is in ISA 2.  Or did you mean "USB" not "USR?"  All
these
> > initials are giving me a headache!  :-)  ISA 1 shares backplate with PCI
3
> > so it is not accessible.  BIOS does say "no" to PNP OS because when I
tried
> > "yes" the 3Com card disappeared.  Doh!  It even says it is PnP in the
System
> > Info!!  Will swapping 3Com and the modem in ISA slots matter?  Thanks
for
> > all the help, I hope you are finding this and "interesting challenge"
not a
> > PITA!
> >
> > --
> > Tom
> >
> > www.amotherswork.com for custom fleece baby buntings, nursery
decorations,
> > bridal & First Communion veils
> > "Doc" <pc-doc@mediaone.net> wrote in message
> > news:3A5B73A9.14274B2C@mediaone.net...
> > > Tom,
> > > Make Sure that the first PCI slot is VACANT!!!
> > > Do not put anything there at all...
> > > And I agree, one card at a time...
> > > Put the Live in PCI slot 2..
> > > Put the 3Com in the last ISA slot..
> > > Put the USR in PCI slot 3...
> > >
> > > Start with the SBLive...
> > > IN the BIOS, under the Peripherals section,
> > > make sure that you indicate NO to PNP OS Installed??
> > >
> > > Good luck, it will work...
> > >
> > > Tom wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hmm, the mobo is a Venus 5MVP3, but searching it on hte net seems to
> > come up
> > > > with a Taiwan company called "Lucky Star" as the manufacturer.
Using
> > AGP
> > > > card.3 pci slots, last one shared with first of 3 ISA slots.  PCI
> > version is
> > > > 2.10.  I know the board does share IRQs, in fact the AGP card by
> > Creative,
> > > > and the creative SB Live insist on sharing an IRQ despite my fiding
with
> > > > BIOS to try and force SBLive in a free IRQ.  More info below, and
Thanks
> > for
> > > > all the help!!!!
> > > >
> > > > 0 System timer
> > > > 1 Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard
> > > > 2 Programmable interrupt controller
> > > > 3 U.S. Robotics 56K FAX INT PnP
> > > > 4 Communications Port (COM3)
> > > > 5 3Com EtherLink III ISA (3C509b-TPO) in PnP mode
> > > > 6 Standard Floppy Disk Controller
> > > > 7 ECP Printer Port (LPT1)
> > > > 8 System CMOS/real time clock
> > > > 9 (free)
> > > > 10 (free)
> > > > 11 Creative SB Live! Value
> > > > 11 IRQ Holder for PCI Steering
> > > > 11 3D Blaster RIVA TNT2 Ultra
> > > > 12 TrackMan4 (PS/2)
> > > > 13 Numeric data processor
> > > > 14 Primary IDE controller (dual fifo)
> > > > 14 VIA Bus Master PCI IDE Controller
> > > > 15 Secondary IDE controller (dual fifo)
> > > > 15 VIA Bus Master PCI IDE Controller
> > > >
> > > >    Plug and Play BIOS
> > > >     System
> > > >     Alloc resources:                None
> > > >     Driver:                                   bios.vxd     4/23/1999
> > 10:22
> > > > PM Size: 30193
> > > >
> > > > << System BIOS >>
> > > >   < System BIOS >
> > > >     Manufacturer:                         Award
> > > >     Version:                              Award Modular BIOS v4.51PG
> > > >     Date:                                 11/05/98
> > > >     Plug & Play Version:                  1.00
> > > >     ID No.:                               FC 01 00
> > > >
> > > > Thnaks again!
> > > > --
> > > > Tom
> > > >
> > > > www.amotherswork.com for custom fleece baby buntings, nursery
> > decorations,
> > > > bridal & First Communion veils
> > > > "Doc" <pc-doc@mediaone.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:3A59E6C6.3821C4F3@mediaone.net...
> > > > > Tom,
> > > > > What motherboard are you using? And are there ONLY three
> > > > > PCI slots aboard?
> > > > > Older Mobos did not support (as well) the PCI / IRQ
> > > > > 'sharing' the is inherent in PCI 2.03... (hmm, well
> > > > > 2.03 or 2.0x... forget which version is out now) and
> > > > > consequently cards don't play together so nicely.
> > > > >
> > > > > Are you using an AGP card?  You know that if so,
> > > > > I'd be cautious about placing 'any' card in PCI
> > > > > slot 1!!
> > > > > All slots kind of share with at least one other, with
> > > > > the EXCEPTION of (in 5 PCI slots mobos) usually
> > > > > 3 and 4... some of the later MOBOS do this even
> > > > > better allowing you to set the preference in the
> > > > > BIOS.
> > > > > In 'IRQsharing' based Motherboard/BIOS systems
> > > > > it is not unusual to see some sharing of IRQs... and
> > > > > that is NOT a problem (ahh, unless you have ONE).
> > > > >
> > > > > So I'd check the date and status of your BIOS.
> > > > > IF you are using an old board, you 'might' want
> > > > > to change up to a new board. One that will still
> > > > > use your CPU and RAM, but one that better handles
> > > > > IRQ conflicts.
> > > > >
> > > > > Again, what Mobo? What BIOS date... and do you
> > > > > use an AGP card?
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > I am trying to install a ADS Tech PCI card with 2 USB ports on
> > Win98SE.
> > > > I
> > > > > > have 3 pci slots, one has SBLive Value in it.  Adding USB card
> > screws up
> > > > > > SBLive.  Sometimes SBLive isn't even recognized at boot, other
time
> > it
> > > > is,
> > > > > > but when Windows starts all you hear is static.  I have tried
moving
> > the
> > > > > > card to different slots.  The SB Live only works at all in slot
1 or
> > 3,
> > > > > > never in slot 2; nothing but static from it then.  Any ideas?
Thx!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Tom
> > > > > >
> > > > > > www.amotherswork.com for custom fleece baby buntings, nursery
> > > > decorations,
> > > > > > bridal & First Communion veils
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Rich 'Doc' Colley
> > > > >
> > > > > mailto:pc-doc@mediaone.net
> > >
> > > --
> > > Rich 'Doc' Colley
> > >
> > > mailto:pc-doc@mediaone.net
>
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> Rich 'Doc' Colley
>
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