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Re: Advocacy of SBLive! or A3D 'advocacy'???

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From: musicmaker
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 00:00
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>,  "DKM" <daronm1@nospam.airmail.net> wrote:

> FYI, Creative Labs soundcard up to now has earned its place as being the =
> most noisy, distortion riddened and
> buggy soundcards made.
> Now, you claim we are planted by Aureal to tout the Vortex and A3D and =
> you cannot beleive how we could
> knock such a wonderful company as Creative Labs (hahaha).
> Well, I say screw Aureal as they have completely abandoned its users in =
> Vortex driver support.
> Aureal could have come out with drivers fixes that worked perfect in the =
> first month of driver releases, but instead
> they are sitting around with a jar of vaseline playing with themselves =
> and we are screwed.
> I also say screw all of Creative Lab's previos products as they were =
> garbage, good riddence.
> Let's hope their new SBLive is all they make it out to be.



WHAT?! You think I am the only one that was underwhelmed by A3D?  Hey it's
sort of a nice 'effect', but I have had to wade through hundreds of posts on
Usenet touting it as some essential gaming tool, when even a review I read
touting an A3D card said the multi-speaker surround was superior to the two
speaker implementation.

And what I or you think about Creative Labs is irrelevant.  What I take
exception with is the lame Creative bashing, and a lot of it appears to be
(subtly or otherwise) associated with somebody claiming how great A3D and
vortex is.

What is important is how the card sounds to the ears, and how effective it is
in what you are trying to accomplish.  For the money, I am quite pleased with
my "AWE Gold".	All the lame bashing about it being noisy is just lame
because I don't hear this noise people are talking about, and soundfont
enhanced midi can sound simply exceptional.

It's a great sampler, and there is great music on the web that was created
with AWE cards. For example, check out this mp3
(ftp://193.172.43.250/mp3/abyss.mp3) of a track that was mixed mixed "with
Awe64Gold + Awe32. No extra process added, this is the original sound from
the two soundcards (mp3 eats some high frequencies...)"

It is Creative's multi-point interpolation that makes the samples incredibly
smooth and 'expressive, with nary a word brought up about that, although it
counters your lame claim about "distortion".

Also, this stuff about Creative's "buggy" cards is lame in my opinion too; my
'Gold' worked out of the box...no problem.  If Creative's cards are so crappy
according to all the A3D touters, then they would probably have been out of
business by now.  Instead, I see them giving great value to the consumer. 
That is what motivated me to by the 'Gold' over a year ago, because at the
time, the next card up in price offering digital out was >$150 more
expensive.

And with regard to consumer value, what other audio card is offering 4-speaker
out for less than $85?  Or bundling a Cambridge 4.1 speaker set with a
multi-speaker card for less than $130?  (But if you're like me and you want
multi-speaker surround with soundfont support and digital in/out, then I
recommend you pay the extra money for the 'SB Live'.)

Hey, the competition is fine, as it increases consumer value; but enough
already with the lame Creative bashing about "overpriced", "noisy", and
"distortion", (which doesn't meet with my experience), while neglecting the
superlatives like great tech support, a substantial web-based user-community
support, soundfont enhancement, etc.

And I think anybody that knows anything about making music with a computer
would agree that based on an intial review of the'SB Live' specs, there is
nothing on the market that comes close to touching it in
price/performance...not even close.


So bring it on Creative; we're waiting to check it out!




musicmaker
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