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On Mon, 8 Jun 1998 11:16:50 +0100, "Mark Painter"
<mark@soundout_dot_demon.co.uk> wrote:

>Hi Folks
>
>I need to be able to play two audio tracks at once, e.g. two  MP3 or one MP3
>and one Wave file on our Radio Stations' PC.
>
>Has anyone any suggestions as to how this can be achieved?
>If I try it with one card (AWE64) the second track can't play as the audio
>device is in use.
>Would two cards enable this? How would I direct the second sound to only the
>second card?

   This is one way of doing this, but not the easiest.  Geting two
soundcards to work in one machine is *not* easy.

    There are a number of special cards out there which will do this
with ease.  Look for DMAN (among others).  They have the aditional
benefit of having S/PDIF output so you can get good quality from them.

>Is there a real-time mixer programme that can achieve this?
>

   This also exists in several forms.


    Notes:
1)  Get hold of the magazines 'Sound on Sound' and 'Future Music'
which cover this area very well.
2)  I suspect that 2 MP3 files would be too much for most machines -
convert the MP3s to WAV for the playback.

   Regards,
         Harry.

In article <3599faca.1807952097@news.demon.co.uk>, Harry Broomhall
<haeb@demon.net> writes

>2)  I suspect that 2 MP3 files would be too much for most machines -
>convert the MP3s to WAV for the playback.

Played on WinAmp when I used to have NT, on a P166 a single MP3 only
took 16% (128kbps, stereo, 44KHz) of the processor time.

TB

Hi Mark

My EWS64 does it good.

A multi wave mixer tool I know best is Cool Edit Pro

Playing one single MP3 with WinAMP is about 20% CPU of a P166 (but, o.k.,
SCSI UW disks-;)

I hope this helps

HJW

Mark Painter schrieb in Nachricht
<897301211.21412.0.nnrp-06.c1ed05ac@news.demon.co.uk>...
>Hi Folks
>
>I need to be able to play two audio tracks at once, e.g. two  MP3 or one
MP3
>and one Wave file on our Radio Stations' PC.
>
>Has anyone any suggestions as to how this can be achieved?
>If I try it with one card (AWE64) the second track can't play as the audio
>device is in use.
>Would two cards enable this? How would I direct the second sound to only
the
>second card?
>Is there a real-time mixer programme that can achieve this?
>
>Any  suggestions would really be appreciated
>--
>mark@soundout.demon_dot_co.uk
>(Replace _dot_ with . to reply)
>
>

Hi,

You can play two wave files simultaneously using ActiveX (ActiveX Movie
Control in Accessories/Multimedia).

Best Regards

Andy

>2)  I suspect that 2 MP3 files would be too much for most machines -
>convert the MP3s to WAV for the playback.


I think all modern machines should be able to cope with ease. By modern
i mean hi-end pentium class or higher.

The only proggy i would recommend for playing multiple MP3's is winAMP
ver 1.6. (newer versions don't allow you to- but please correct me if i'm
wrong). Check the checkbox labelled "Allow multiple instances" or something
like that. It'll allow you to open multiple winAMP windows and you can
play an Mp3 with each, assumming your soundcard is able to.

This way I can play 4 mp3's on my IP188MMX + Gravis UltraSound PnP
w/  RAM.

I recall the MonsterSound could do multiple digital audio streams as well,
but
i think (but not sure) it's done by software mixing...

To Mark: UltraSound PnP/PnP Pro's are now dirt cheap. Probably the
cheapest way to get multi-wave playback. Have a look around.

-Thanh

1) Guilluemot HSP64, EWS64 both do multi streams (numbers of streams above
8, seems limited by CPU)

2) Monster Sound cards can do multi streams (up to 23 stereo in hardware
using DirectSound)

Those are two I'm aware of...I'm sure there are many more...mainly any of
the boards based on the DREAM chipset (HSP64, EWS64) should do multistreams

The Monster sound is cheaper here in the US by about 50 dollars than the
HSP64....but with the HSP64 you get S/PDIF out/in, good S/N ratios, RCA
out/in, and some other very nice features, Great for audio apps...ok for
games.

Monster is a much better game board in that it supports A3D audio in
hardware. Where as the HSP64 only supports MSDS3D, and poorly at that.

So my .02 cents worth. Since your going to be using for audio/radio get the
HSP64.

Mark Painter wrote in message
<897301211.21412.0.nnrp-06.c1ed05ac@news.demon.co.uk>...
>Hi Folks
>
>I need to be able to play two audio tracks at once, e.g. two  MP3 or one
MP3
>and one Wave file on our Radio Stations' PC.
>
>Has anyone any suggestions as to how this can be achieved?
>If I try it with one card (AWE64) the second track can't play as the audio
>device is in use.
>Would two cards enable this? How would I direct the second sound to only
the
>second card?
>Is there a real-time mixer programme that can achieve this?
>
>Any  suggestions would really be appreciated
>--
>mark@soundout.demon_dot_co.uk
>(Replace _dot_ with . to reply)
>
>

On Wed, 10 Jun 1998 01:28:19 +0800, philg@nospamca.com.au (PJee)
wrote:

[SNIP]
>
>Actually i put two AWE64 golds in a machine and it was one of the easiest 
>installations i've done, win95 recognised them both straight away, no 
>conflicts or software probs at all.
>

    Remarkable!   Usualy these days there just aren't the IRQs spare.

    Regards,
           Harry.

In article <3599faca.1807952097@news.demon.co.uk>, haeb@demon.net went...
> On Mon, 8 Jun 1998 11:16:50 +0100, "Mark Painter"
> <mark@soundout_dot_demon.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> >Hi Folks
> >
> >I need to be able to play two audio tracks at once, e.g. two  MP3 or one MP3
> >and one Wave file on our Radio Stations' PC.
> >
> >Has anyone any suggestions as to how this can be achieved?
>
Yes you can play 2 mp3s or wavs at once but i think you'll find this can 
either be software *or* hardware dependant. I know winamp mentions this 
feature (i havnt tried it) but the program i'm thinking of actually 
software mixes the two (or more) audio files into one buffer for the 
soundcard, so in effect you can use any old card.

My guess is that you want to 'segue' or overlap songs, yes? I've been 
through all these questions myself as i'm setting up an automated radio 
station. BTW, do you know what software your station's using? 
 
>    This is one way of doing this, but not the easiest.  Geting two
> soundcards to work in one machine is *not* easy.

Actually i put two AWE64 golds in a machine and it was one of the easiest 
installations i've done, win95 recognised them both straight away, no 
conflicts or software probs at all.


PJee

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PJee wrote in message ...

>through all these questions myself as I'm setting up an automated radio
>station. BTW, do you know what software your station's using?


Yes we use the Radio Wolf package. It's incredibly cheap and does the job.
It has a lot of minor irritations, but for the price it's just right. But if
you know of a better one...


The only 'real' complaint is the lack of being able to fire a jingle while a
track is playing. If you have miss timed the news for example, its a pig not
being able to fire the next track early. If Wolf had a 'fade quickly and
start next track now' button it would solve all the problems!

The main problem is that the mixing has to be done in real time - not
pre-recorded as most emails to me have suggested.

If anyone can suggest a different radio-friendly package at a price that a
community radio station can afford (I.E. next to nothing) please let me
know.

Thanks everyone for your input. I will be having a serious look at the
options over the next week, and will report back my findings to the group.

Regards all

Mark Painter

http://www.soundout.demon.co.uk

>I need to be able to play two audio tracks at once, e.g. two  MP3 or one
MP3
>and one Wave file on our Radio Stations' PC.
>
>Has anyone any suggestions as to how this can be achieved?



I use Voyetra's Digital Orchestrator

In article <897468349.27910.0.nnrp-01.c1ed05ac@news.demon.co.uk>, 
mark@soundout_dot_demon.co.uk went...
> 
> Yes we use the Radio Wolf package. It's incredibly cheap and does the job.
> It has a lot of minor irritations, but for the price it's just right. But if
> you know of a better one...
> 

Oh yeah i know someone who's using that. The next one up that i know 
of (ok, theres a bit of a price jump) is a nice little program called 
Raduga (i think the URL is www.themesearch.com, downloadable demo) Mixes 
mp3's and wavs, some good features and is about US$600. 

Of course most automation software (like RCS, Audio VAult) tends to be 
too expensive for small operations and starts to require its own 
proprietry soundcards.

BTW, if your looking for sites on the web about this, go here-

http://www.ping.be/~ping0837/technic2b.htm


PJee

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