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Article #15092Re: Mainframe vs Micro
From: Scot E. Wilcoxon
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1987 05:59
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1987 05:59
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In article <1427@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu> tim@tomcat.UUCP (Tim Kay) writes:
>Ted Holden (IMS) writes:
>>Tim Kay (Caltech) writes:
...
>>army ants EAT. What is important is the servers reach a certain level of
>>power and sophistication, which they have, and the state of the control soft-
>>ware for the army (e.g. Novell's Netware). These are good enough for such
>>PC armies to eat VAX class machines today and I can't believe they won't be
>>eating IBM mainframes in another year or two.
"Speed" is relative. A PC is fast for balancing a checkbook.
For drawing a complex image you'll want a faster processor if you don't want
that PC on your desk busy for sixteen hours. Ditto for data crunching, as
PC disk data paths are not fast.
...
>So, let's build a version of the IBM PC with I/O processors, high bandwidth
>point-to-point communications, additional, higher bandwidth busses, the
>ability to handle many disk drives, etc., to overcome the difficulties that
>I have just mentioned. For the CPU, we'll use an 80386, which I agree could be
>adequate. What you now have is a machine somewhere between today's
>minicomputers and a mainframes. You have lost your cost advantage,
>and the machine I just described is no longer a personal computer.
>But I'll agree that this machine could do what you are claiming.
The above is currently called a "supermicro". It's a multiuser machine
because for many applications it's cheaper to put dumb terminals on it than
for each user to have a networked PC. As long as networking costs more
than dumb terminals ($400 ASCII) that break-even point will be important.
Micro *processors* are replacing larger processors, by being used to build
larger computers, and will continue to push upward the lower limit of the
"mainframe" and "supercomputer" ranges. A 30-processor 32032 or 680x0 machine
with I/O processors packs a hefty punch, pulls a lot of data, and is only
horrendously expensive when comparing it to a computer for your home. More
power in a single processor is only needed for single-thread
compute-intensive jobs (there will always be supercomputers).
>I have already conceded that smaller computers
>might eventually replace lots of mainframes. But I think
...
>And, don't get me wrong. I love PCs, and I am fascinated by what they
>can do. I can't imagine why anybody would buy something like a
>System 36, when you could have an AT or three that are just as powerful
>(more powerful?) and costs a fraction as much.
Why is a System/36 not called a micro? Because the box is too big.
--
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Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rutgers!dayton!meccts!meccsd!mecc!sewilco From: sewilco@mecc.MECC.COM (Scot E. Wilcoxon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: Mainframe vs Micro Message-ID: <787@mecc.MECC.COM> Date: Wed, 7-Jan-87 00:59:20 EST Article-I.D.: mecc.787 Posted: Wed Jan 7 00:59:20 1987 Date-Received: Thu, 8-Jan-87 23:00:56 EST References: <658@imsvax.UUCP> <1427@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu> Sender: news@mecc.MECC.COM Reply-To: sewilco@mecc.UUCP (Scot E. Wilcoxon) Organization: Minn Ed Comp Corp, St. Paul Lines: 52 Summary: Micros may replace mainframe, but personal computers won't.