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In article <2938@infmx.UUCP> aland@infmx.UUCP (alan denney) writes:
>dorourke@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (David M. O'Rourke) writes:
>>[and I've tried so hard to stay out of this... :-) ]
>>
>> You've obviously not ever used a system that allowed you to use two screens
>>effectivly.  It's very nice to debug on one screen and run your code on the
>>other, just as much as simply having the extra screen real-estate.
>>...
>>  You could've very easily picked some of the expanssion options that are
>>truely debatable for usefullness, but saying the ability to configure a
>>multi-screen system is not a USEFUL system just shows how closed minded and
>>un-imformed you really are.
>
>Uh, Dave, how much have you used PCs?  As stated earlier, I have been running
>two monitors in my AT at home for quite a while, and I use them both for
>dual-screen debugging also.  What makes you think the PC world is incapable
>of such magic?
>
>Tough to configure, too.  Open the machine, add the mono card, screw it in,
>close the machine, turn on the power.  No switches to set, no muss, no fuss.
>To switch primary monitor to the mono, run "mode mono".  To switch back to 
>EGA, run "mode co80".  To enable the secondary monitor in the Informix-4GL
>debugger (for example), run "appl dev" (application device enable).
>Gee, that didn't hurt a bit.
>
>>David M. O'Rourke
>>Graduating in March of 1990, with a BS in Computer Science & need a Job. 
>
>In a Mac-only shop, I suppose...
>
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God forgive me..

I swore I was going to stay out of this argument.  I thought I had resisted it 
long enough, as the volume was down to a trickle. But this note just P-sses me
off. (It's not the first one, its just the straw that broke the camel's back.

Alan, you clearly have no idea what this conversation is about.

Yes, it is certainly true you can run your debugger on two screens. I wont
deny that, I do it all the time when I do PC development.  But the point is
that this debugger had to be specifically designed for that use, and it is one
of a very few applications that knows how to do it on the PC.  On the mac
any application can run on anny monitor (caveat, a very few poorly written 
programs may map their window to a particular location, this is a serious flaw
in those programs).  

This helps, not just with individual programs that use lots of windows, (for 
instance when I am TeXing I keep my preview window open on my Portrait display
while I type on my 13" color screen) but also when using several programs 
together.  I might bring up MacWrite II on the main screen (portrait) then 
bring up MacDraw to do a diagram.  It opens onto the main screen, but I just 
drag it over to the small screen, so I can see both programs at once.

Again the poin is not that a very few programs on the PC can use this 
capability.  THe point is that you have no idea how useful a general feature
it is until you have used a well designed system that lets you use it at will.

Josh
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