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Re: ISC update

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From: Piercarlo Grandi
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1989 22:52
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In article <1989Dec25.040854.9409@virtech.uucp> cpcahil@virtech.uucp (Conor P. Cahill) writes:

   > In article <511090@nstar.UUCP> larry@nstar.UUCP (Larry Snyder) writes:

   > 	Humph! Why spend 800.00 on X11 when you can get the sources and build
   > it yourself? ISC has a wonderful ability to take free sources, hack and screw
   > it up, then turn around and charge you a great deal of money for it.

   You get X sources, yes.  But who is gonna port the server? The x source tape
   does not include a server for 386 machines/hardware, so it is not just a 
   case of dropping in the software and running.

   Don't recommend something to somebody else when you don't know the first
   thing about what you are talking about.  Telling somebody to get the
   X sources and do the port themselves will wast alot more than $800 dollars
   worth of thier time.

Uh oh. The ISC X11 *libraries* (their so called developer's set)
cost $795. The *server* costs $295.  From ISC just get the
server, which is very well done (has a reputation for being the
fastest around), and get the libraries and toolkits and clients
off the X11 servers or tapes and compile them -- you are likely
to get a more recent and more up-to-date version than ISC's. ISC
is pricing the libraries at $795 probably to discourage end users
from "developing" on their own, while offering the same at 75%
discount to developers.  Probably their rationale is that they do
not want to support the libraries to end users, while probably
developers are far fewer and tend to be more technically
sophisticated.

Don't believe the ISC people when they say that their high
prices are because of exacting QA -- for one thing their AT386
terminfo entry has been broken for years now... ISC are *very*
good, but they are often as sloppy as anybody.
--
Piercarlo "Peter" Grandi           | ARPA: pcg%cs.aber.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk
Dept of CS, UCW Aberystwyth        | UUCP: ...!mcvax!ukc!aber-cs!pcg
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From: pcg@rupert.cs.aber.ac.uk (Piercarlo Grandi)
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Subject: Re: ISC update
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Date: 28 Dec 89 22:52:54 GMT
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