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Benjamin Gawert wrote:

> JK wrote:
>
> >> 64Bit for notebooks is just for catching the clueless masses that
> >> run behind high GHz and GByte numbers...
> >
> > There are people who want to run 64 bit software.
>
> Yes, right. There are tons of applications for x86-64 that _require_ to be
> run as 64bit on a notebook. You for sure are one of the people living in the
> belief that 64bit are much faster than 32bit...
>
> Interestingly, AMD64 is mostly found in cheap consumer notebooks. I can't
> think of any business notebook working with an AMD64 CPU. On the other hand,
> there are lots of P-M notebooks which provide unbeaten battery runtime

Look for thin and light Athlon 64 notebooks in the near future. AMD started
shipping the chips for those in August.

>
> (except maybe the PPC-based Apple iBooks/Powerbooks) and a great
> performance...
>
> >>> Is it because they can't manage to make a low power 64 bit
> >>> processor?
> >>
> >> AMD also can't make a low power 64bit processor. MIPS does for
> >> example...
> >>
> >> Benjamin
> >
> > AMD makes some very low power processors.
>
> Right, a 32bit CPU. Intel has lots of them, too...
>
> But AMD still has no real low power 64bit processor...
>
> > AMD also makes some Opteron chips that use only 30 watts, which have
> > the designation EE.
>
> 30Watts are not low power.

Compared to 100+ watt Intel chips they are.

> 3-12 Watts are low power.

3-12 watt 64 bit server chips with integrated memory controllers?
You are dreaming.

> The opteron is a nice
> CPU (even when having some bottlenecks), but certainly not a low power
> CPU...

The 30 watt ones are. Of course they aren't nearly as cheap as the
higher power consuming ones.

>
>
> Benjamin