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Article #1164Re: FoxBase+/Mac vs 4th Dimension
From: Blair M. Burtan
Date: Sun, 09 Aug 1992 18:39
Date: Sun, 09 Aug 1992 18:39
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Want my opinion on 4D? It sucks. Big time. I've had nothing but headaches from it. Still, rumour has it that it's better than anything else out there. Here are a few annoying problems: There is no record modification date/time field as a default. When I transformed a 4D app to multi-user and placed the data file on the server, I has no idea that people would be clueless enough to work with their local data files thinking that the data would magically appear elsewhere. The result: two weeks worth of data from two different people were split between two data files. It was a nightmare to merge to two files. Later, I added a modification date and time field that would update anytime a record was changed. Problem #2: A manager asked me to build a system to show where the staff were in their payscale graphically. I thought "Oh, 4D has thermometer objects. I can use that." Wrong. Thermometer objects don't work on output layouts. AUGH!!!!!! I called Acius. There response "No they don't do that." What? How about documenting this bug-not-a-feature?!? Problem #3: I ran into a situation where a sequence number was used to generate a unique key. Well, seems that the current sequence number stored in thedata file got screwed up and the value is in the middle of the range of existing records. And there's no way to reset this number. I tried looking at the data file with a disk editor but it seems this number is duplicated many times throughout the file. Sheesh. Problem #4: I wanted to print the source for all the procedures I've got. Bzzzt! Can't do that unless you cut and paste them all. Turns out that Acius sells a utility to do this. Holy dogcow, guys! This is really cheesy IMHO. On going problem: The documentation is so cluttered that you can't find out anything useful. You don't document a crucial feature in the tutorial section of a manual. Their technical writers should be dragged into the street and shot. Problem #5: What company in their right mind sends their entire tech support staff to MacWorld and puts a message on the hotline saying to call back in a week? Problem #6: I'm an engineer. I've got a Bachelors on Computer Engineering and a Masters in Software engineering. I know how to debug software. I know how to reproduce errors so that developers can fix them. After having informed the tech support staff of this I still get treated like a freshman in computer science. These guys need to improved their social skills. I've got a lot of gripes about the way 4D is built like the fact that it's bad form to redraw the menu after every window change and the fact that you can't run more than one database at a time but I'll hold off my flames. Acius if you're listening, hire some MacApp programmers and a new tech support staff. -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ + Blair M. Burtan: bear@netcom.com bear@csa.bu.edu bear@bu-pub.bu.edu + + My opinions don't necessarily reflect those of Mattel Toys, so there + + "If it's not baroque, don't fix it." - Beauty and The Beast + +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!wupost!csus.edu!netcom.com!netcom!bear From: bear@netcom.Netcom.COM (Blair M. Burtan) Subject: Re: FoxBase+/Mac vs 4th Dimension Message-ID: <BEAR.92Aug9103922@netcom.Netcom.COM> Date: Sun, 09 Aug 92 18:39:22 GMT Organization: Mattel Toys, Inc. In-Reply-To: ejw1@kimbark.uchicago.edu's message of Mon, 3 Aug 1992 14:44:28 GMT Reply-To: bear@netcom.com (Blair M. Burtan) References: <1992Jul31.011004.3052@cornerstone.com> <1992Jul31.174147.22204@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> <1992Aug02.031954.19785@DIALix.oz.au> <1992Aug3.144428.27517@midway.uchicago.edu> Lines: 49