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Re: NewsWatcher1.3bx...Now I have to find another news reader!!

#1225
From: Bernie Bernstein
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 04:56
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In article <jfelder-100892153905@latvia.lerc.nasa.gov>,
jfelder@lerc.nasa.gov (James L. Felder) wrote:
> 
> In article <1992Aug6.152459.20672@ncsu.edu>, everette@ncsuvm.cc.ncsu.edu
> (Everette Allen) wrote:
> > 
> > I have used NewsWather 1.0.2 for quite a while and like it very much with
> > a few exceptions.  No along comes 1.3bx and I will have to switch to
> > something else.  Why??  It has become rn from the unix world!!  I like the 
> > increased speed...but the mac user interface violations are not worth it.
> > In 1.0.2 groups were bold if they had new traffic and pain text if not nice
> > simple easy to understand.  Bring it back!!  The finder-like triangles in the 
> > left margin are good but just as awkward as in the finder to use.  Give me
> > an option to hide them. The use of the - sign to indicate read/unread is not
> > as easy to spot as the bold/not indicator.  The space bar --> next artical is
> > not done in the same way as the unix rn (there it pages to the end of the art.
> > and then goes to the next art.  n is used to do --> next art.). Just make the
> > pageup and pagedown keys work and some command key sequence or user 
> > definable keys (cmd space bar is not too bad:-) available.  Stay with the mac
> > interface.  If I wanted unix news I would log on to my unix account and use
> > that!!  I don't really mean to flame because the new version is very fast and
> > seems like it will have many good new features (menus that are not implemented
> > should be grayed and stay that way) just please remember we need to best of
> > the mac first...then unix :-).  
> > Still with 1.0.2... EVerette
> 
> The b in NewsWatcher 1.3bx stands for beta.  This version of Newswatcher is
> still in beta test.  Many of us objected to the user interface departures,
> and those have been dropped, I believe, in the new incremental version.  If
> you don't like betaware, then stick with 1.0.2 and wait till 1.3 final
> comes out.  No matter what though, it is still hard to beat the price. 
> 

Yes and no. I think people who have strong opinions about the news reader
should try it and make their opinion known to the authors. Input from
users like Everette can help John Norstad et al develop a good user
interface for 1.3 final. If you disagree with a users comments, then
your opinions can be taken into account as well.

I do mildly object to the public flame of 1.3b however. At least the
tone wasn't too offensive or I wouldn't "mildly" object. If you are beta
testing software for someone, then you should probably talk to the author
when there is a problem with it. Beta software is not necessarily the same
as the final version. If there are problems with the program, then the
beta stage is a good time to let the author know that you have a
better idea. It is not a good time to get on a soapbox and tell the
world why you have given up on the future of the program.



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