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Article #12268Re: Web Design: Would you design a PDF by writing Postscript in Notepad?
From: Andy Dingley
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:48
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:48
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On 16 Feb, 00:42, TaliesinSoft <taliesins...@mac.com> wrote: > I find it interesting, er, uh, amusing, that Adobe, the marketers of not one, > but two high priced website development tools, GoLive and Dreamweaver, > apparently don't use either to develop their own website. I find it irrelevant. Whether Dreamweevil is good or bad has _no_ influence on whether Freeway is good or bad. Nor does whether Adobe have a good or a bad site. > Incidentally, the W3C Markup Validation Service found 0 errors with the > Freeway site Like I said, it's competent at doing the wrong thing. It makes valid HTML, but its use of CSS is still inflexible and page-layout style, not good web practice. > Oops, I forgot, validation is apparently useless. That's a straw man argument that you've created yourself. No-one else claims this, or claims that Freeway's validity isn't a positive feature. > But isn't it adherence to standards that should bring > about uniformity in presentation of a website amongst all browsers? It's useful, but still far from a sufficient condition for this! Secondly, why _should_ websites look the same amongst all browsers? If you don't understand that yet, you have a vast amount of web design fundamentals to learn about. With Freeway I can design a trivial site with "a short word in a small coloured box." On my desktop this sits as a tiny box up near the top of the page, just as I intended. On my phone (200px screen) it fills the whole display and is far bigger than the contained word. This is _not_ what I intended to happen. Freeway takes this bogus concept of "pixel identical rendering in all contexts" and forces it across the web, even to devices where it's inappropriate to do so (the font size in pixels varies widely between my desktop and my phone). Just try re- sizing the font or changing browser window size in a Freeway-designed site!
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